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Posted by VWChick (Member # 12295) on April 15, 2008 11:37 AM:
We just finished with an IVF cycle that failed. We went in for a TR consult but out local (well, a couple hours away) clinic convinced us to do IVF because insurance would pay for part of it and they were "almost positive" it would work the first time. This is a big and well-known reputable clinic. Anyway, even after a "perfect" cycle (according to the doctors and nurses) we still failed to conceive. Now we are rethinking TR. Yes, it would be more expensive. But it wouldn't cost us every time we try either! [Wink] Plus, I am certain that I have PTLS too. DH has a low sperm count but I think a lot of that is do to being a smoker (he's now willing to quit), wearing tight undies, etc. So we're thinking that if we can raise his counts TR might be a better way to go.
Anyone else do IVF first and the TR instead of the other way around? Thoughts from you ladies on my situation?
Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on April 15, 2008 11:45 AM:
VWChick
There is a March 07 girl named Martica that did IVF and it failed- That was in Jan 2007 (I think) then they had TR done by Dr. Berger in March 07 and she was our first PG mommie after TR and delivered a beautiful baby boy Dec 17th 2007- Now they are thinking about Tr baby number 2
I say there is NO OTHER like Dr. Berger - Sure we all have local Doctors in our areas but do they have the experiment as DR. Berger and on top of the newsest and best ways to do a TR? Dr. Berger only does Tr's wanting a baby so bad I only wanted the best...
I had PTLS too really really bad and after my TR with each passing month I woucl feel my body as if it were coming back to life and acting normal again.. After 10 months of TTC we finally got our BFP and are due 09-11-08...
With a tr you can try every month and you have already tried IVF so I say go to Dr.Berger and get your TR done... [Big Grin]
Best of Luck on your journey!!!
Lots of LOve,
Becki
Tr 03-09-07
EDD 09-11-08
Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on April 15, 2008 11:49 AM:
I did not try the IVF. I was told the same thing. I instead got a TR. I had mine on 3-24-2008. This will be our first cycle trying. Like you I thought at lest I want have to pay every time we try. Oh and the PTLS has greatly inproved. Just to let you know.
Posted by Sally, RN (Member # 7389) on April 15, 2008 12:00 PM:
VWChick--We have had many women come to Dr. Berger for TR after having failed IVF treatment. In most cases TR has higher pregnancy and birth rates than IVF. I am glad that you are rethinking TR. Please call and speak to one of the nurses if you have questions. Best wishes.
Sally,RN
Posted by berta8133 (Member # 11188) on April 15, 2008 12:11 PM:
VW..yep..we did IVF in 05 cuz dr's said TR was IMPOSSIBLE......and when it wasnt sucessful....dr's said they wouldn't do it again unless we used donor eggs because my eggs were useless.
Had TR 7/23/07 have been pg twice...and hoping 3rd one is a sticky one!
I should have done TR first!
Posted by Bellarose (Member # 11069) on April 15, 2008 12:57 PM:
VWChick,
I did IVF in 2006. One fresh cycle and one frozen. I did conceive with the first cycle, but miscarried at 12 weeks. The frozen cycle was a Chemical pregnancy. We only had 2 embryos survive the freeze and thaw cycle, so we used them both up at the same time. 11 Months later I had my TR surgery. No BFP yet, but we still have hope... and 2 years later I have finally lost all the weight that I gained on the IVF meds.
One more IVF cycle may be in our future, but I haven't gotten to that point yet, I think I will try for another year, then revisit the idea with the DH.
GoodLuck with your decision,
Kim
Posted by kitkat32608 (Member # 12120) on April 15, 2008 01:13 PM:
VWChick. I was convinced also by the doctors to do IVF first because of the same thing. That they where so certain I would get pregnant right off because all the tests where perfect and my eggs where perfect and we made the most perfect embryos. It failed. Then they had us do an FET cycle with the leftover eggs to expend what we had. When the FET didn't work he said not to do another cycle. He said if you where 38 I would tell you to do another cycle but you're young, healthy and your eggs and embryos where of perfect quality. He also said my chances would be better with a TR in the long run. This is after he made me do IVF he admits my chances where better with the TR. I was so pissed and hence why I refused to have him do my TR. Plus something kept pulling me back to Dr. B's site and I'm so glad I did. I had my TR on 3.26.08. I hope this helps. Good luck in whatever decision you make. But I agree with you on making sure that his sperm count is raised before you make your decision.
Posted by Andie (Member # 8626) on April 15, 2008 01:17 PM:
I had a failed cycle in 04 - did my tr with Dr B 10/05 and have a baby boy and all my PTLS symptoms were gone within 2 cycles - yippee!
Good luck!
Posted by Luckypj's (Member # 9974) on April 15, 2008 05:42 PM:
VW Chick,
I too, tried IVF first. Was told I was a perfect candidate. My insurance covered some and it was STILL more expensive than TR. I conceived the first try and had an M/C in the 9th and 12th weeks (twins). 2nd cycle was unsuccessful. I was then told my eggs were old and should consider an egg donor. I had my TR 2/15/06 and BFP 2/9/07. I have a beautiful 6 month old daughter today! BTW - the RE I saw was rated in the top 10 of the U.S and in the end I spent 4 times as much on IVF as TR. Good luck and God Bless!
Posted by jcis4me (Member # 11983) on April 16, 2008 09:55 AM:
I too was steered towards IVF by my doctor of 22 years! In fact, he's the one that did my TL! After 2 IVF cycles costing us over $20k, we decided that TR was our best choice. In my heart, I had felt this was the right answer to begin with, but I was swayed by my docotr and the IVF specialist that IVF was easier and more successful. I now beg to differ! The hormone treatment/injections took a horrible toll on my body and emotions! Anyway, I had my TR in 1/08 and we are ttc this very week! Dr. Berger and his staff are awesome!!!
Posted by Marty (Member # 10659) on April 16, 2008 12:18 PM:
Hi This is Martica, My TR sister Becki wrote here about me. I did have a failed IVF in December 2007 had the surgery in March and was pregnant a couple days later. I have a beautiful baby boy that I never thought could be after the heartbreaking news of the IVF not working. AJ was quite an expensive baby and we call him the golden child 25K in IVF and 5800 in TR but if I had to do it all over I would have probably skipped the IVF. Doctors lie to you and tell you high percentages on getting pregant what they do not emphasize is that its a one shot deal and most of the time does not work. Im glad I went through with my TR (even though I was very down in the dumps) Also they told me that my husbands sperm was not that great... Well I guess it was cause he got me pregnant 2 weeks later!!
Lots of luck to you and hope your decision whatever it may be results in a beautiful healthy baby!
Take Care
Martica
Posted by melij (Member # 12286) on April 17, 2008 10:54 PM:
I am so glad i read these post. Just today i went to my gyn to talk to them about getting my tubes reversed and she told me the same thing that most of you talked about. That my eggs may be to old and few and that I should consider IVF fr a better success. This had me quite upset because i know that i will not be able to fund IVF. Now you ladies have just confirmed that I have made the right choice in having my TR. Thanks so much I know God sent me here for a reason. GOD BLESS!!!
Posted by kendraQ (Member # 11723) on April 19, 2008 09:05 PM:
i just had an ivf cycle. my re said that i had an a+ on all the pre-test and gave me a very high chance of success. well, i over stimulated and my cycle got cancelled. i was devistated. now, im also looking into doing a tr. i wish i would have tried a tr first, but i also had a dr say mine wasnt irreversible.
Posted by mommyofseven (Member # 12271) on April 20, 2008 01:36 AM:
I to tried IVF first and was lucky it was a success. Now after two years my husband and I want another child so are looking in to TR my doctor had told me in the beginning that IVF would be better. It was a good experience but now in order to get pregnant again I have to go through all of the same stuff and the expense is outrageous. So i'm leaning more towards TR if it dosen't work then back to IVF. Good luck though. I have heard nothing but positive on Dr. B's site.
Posted by ztaylor (Member # 12314) on April 20, 2008 08:56 PM:
I tried IVF and it did not work. I am 34 now and I was 33 when I did it. He gave me all kind of hope since I was so young and I already had 2 children. My husband is good too, so there was no problems. I have 1 tube and 1 ovary only but everything went excellent the whole treatment. My doctor told me in the first visit that I did not have any chances of a TR because it has been 13 years since my TL, that's why I decided to go with the IVF. I spent around 16,000 because he did not buy enough medication for my whole treatment and i ran out of it. I apologize girls about my lack of good abbreviations as you guys use but this is my first time writing and i really don't know them.I already send almost all my paperwork to Dr. Berger and i have already been treated like i was there. They are great and i am looking forward to have my surgery. You know what, at the end it doe not matter how many ovaryes, tubes, try outs, ivf cycles or whatever what it really matters is that is up to GOD to work it out!!! so you go with your instincts and pray GOD to give you your miracle!!!! you will be in my prayers...take care and don't give up on GOD...
Posted by Loribeau (Member # 8892) on April 20, 2008 10:45 PM:
I was scheduled for IVF next month, but have decided to cancel it. I just can't risk it. I know it works for some, but my doctor, despite my labs being "very good" said 20% chance it would work. I can't risk OHSS, multiple births or worse yet, BFN-- not for $15,000.
I had my TR 12/05 and I'll keep trying, if it's meant to be it will happen, if not, I'm OK- I guess.
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