Pregnancy is possible after Essure reversal

Although the manufacturer of the Essure device states it is not reversible, the tubal reversal doctors at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center have successfully removed Essure coils from women wishing to become pregnant again. Pregnancy after Essure reversal is possible.  

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Posted by 11Needles August 12, 2009 02:17 PM:
 
Hello all,
I have been reading the message boards for a couple weeks now and I would like to thank all of you for sharing your stories. It makes me feel good to know that I am not the only one who now longs for a baby after my decision to sterilize. I have not seen any posts about women having the Essure reversed (removed) and I thought it would be a good idea to share my story.

I had the essure done in November 2006. At the time I thought it was the right thing to do and now nearly 3 years later I regret having done the procedure. I am schedule with Dr. Berger on August 26, 2009 to have Essure reversal. I am hopeful that I will become pregnant again.

 

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Posted by LauraD, RN August 12, 2009 02:32 PM:
 
Hi 11Needles,

Thank you for your post. I think you will find the message board a great place for support for women like you. We are looking forward to meeting you in a few weeks!

Laura

 

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Posted by startin'again August 12, 2009 02:58 PM:
 
Hello 11Needles,

What is the Essure?? I haven't heard of that. I to am scheduled August 26th with Dr. Monteith. See you then!
 

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Posted by 11Needles August 12, 2009 03:18 PM:
 
It is a procedure where they put small metal coils in fallopian tubes to create scare tissue to block your tubes. It is an outpatient procedure that is an alternative to the traditional TL. I do believe there is a page on this web site that explains it better than I do. ha ha
 

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Posted by Ericka P August 12, 2009 08:49 PM:
 
11Needles,

Take a look at this link for information regarding the reversal of the Essure http://www.tubal-reversal.net/blog/2007/tubal-ligation/essure-tubal-reversal.html

Ericka

 

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Posted by 11Needles August 14, 2009 05:34 PM:
 
Thank you. I knew someone could explain it better than me.
 

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Posted by 11Needles August 14, 2009 06:01 PM:
 
I was surfing the net (yet again) to see if I could find any bfp for an essure reversal and I came across a site that report tube lenghts of Left: 12cm Right: 9cm - after an essure reversal. I don't understan how that can be. I know Dr. Berger has only done a couple essure reversals but I was under the impression that the lengths would be shorter than the average TR length??
 

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Posted by AnitaA68 August 14, 2009 08:57 PM:
 
Well then I think that person had above average tubal length because the average uncut tube length is 10cm.
 

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Posted by Rsatteson August 22, 2009 10:57 PM:
 
I am so excited, my surgery is in 4 weeks...well 3 weeks and 6 days...but who's counting right? LOL!!
With the initial conversations with the staff they are all wonderful and caring professionals.
My husband and I look forward to the possibility of a baby after the Essure procedure is reversed.
 

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Posted by 11Needles August 25, 2009 11:10 AM:
 
Rsatterson, congratulations!! Glad that you have scheduled yout apt. I am hoping that Dr Berger can make it work. My coils are not visable in my uterus so I am so scared. How long ago did you have your procedure done?
Ccoo
 

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Posted by 11Needles August 25, 2009 11:12 AM:
 
~ ok that ccoo doesn't mean anything ~ I'm posting from my crack berry! Ha ha
 

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Posted by ashtangi August 30, 2009 11:38 AM:
 
Hello 11 Needles & RSatteson,

First, I want to thank you for posting here. I also had the Essure procedure- 10/2006. My PTLS has been so horrific that I sought out Dr B and have placed a deposit to also have a reversal. I am thinking that I will either have the reversal this fall or next spring.

I would love to hear as many details as each of you are willing to share regarding recovery from the procedure and also recovery from PTLS.

My story is this: I am a married MD. I am in my thirties and I am luckily in a "lifestyle specialty" (I work 50 hour weeks instead of 80). As I am a resident physician still in training, there are only certain times of the year that I can take time off to have the reversal. I have also been hesitant because, well I have scrubbed into too many surgeries gone wrong. So, I know that sometimes even the procedures that should not be too complicated can so south, and quickly. That said, the overwhelming majority of surgeries like this are successful and without complications. So, I had a threefold approach when deciding to sign up with Dr Berger: first, I prayed a lot. Second, I did a lot of my own research on the surgery and the available surgeons at this time. Last, I waited and hoped my PTLS would improve.

As far as why I choose Dr B- it came down to his obvious experience in this field. I called the other provider's office (who currently offers the Essure reversal) and was told that the current length of time under general anesthesia would be four hours. Dr Berger is able to do this reversal in approximately one to 1.5 hours (this is what I was told when I spoke with one of his nurses, and as he does not charge any more than for a regular tubal, I assume it to be true- OR time = money). The price was also considerably higher with the other provider. So, the bottom line is that I wanted for myself the most experienced surgeon I could obtain, and I feel that I have found that in Dr Berger.

Regarding the PTLS, it hasn't gone away. I was more than willing to loose the deposit on the procedure- in the hope that it would magically vanish and I would not loose myself 5 -7 days out of the month. So, now that I am three years poost- Essure, I feel confident that having the reversal is worth the risks of surgery. I only hope that the PTLS begins to subside and quickly! As for babies- perhaps now I am ambivalent about that more than the past, but that is not the primary reason I am seeking out this reversal. It is PTLS.

I hope you are recovering well 11 needles. Thanks again for initiating this post. Please keep us updated on your recovery!
 

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Posted by Jan, RN August 30, 2009 12:24 PM:
 
ashtangi , you have found the right doctor and facility. CHTRC is a private surgical center where Dr. Berger and Dr. Monteith perform 4-5 surgeries/day Monday - Friday. Tubal Reversal is their focus and thus, they are continually adjusting and improving the surgical and recovery experience. Both doctors are very progressive and appreciate patient suggestions. The surgery only lasts 1- 1 and 1/2 hours. Look forward to having you at the center.
 

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Posted by 11Needles August 31, 2009 01:12 PM:
 
ashtangi,
Well I am back at work today (5 days after surgery) I have a desk job and manage a group of 18 people. I feel GREAT!!! I didn't tell anyone at work that I was having surgery and no one has noticed that I went through surgery. as far as PTLS although I was never diagnosed with it I believe that Essure is the result of some of the problems I have been experiencing since I had it done in November 2006. the Main issue is Anemia. I take Iron 3 times a day during my cycles and one pill a day the rest of the time and my blood levels are still low. At this point I am tired of being tired (if that makes sense). I feel really good an am very happy that I had the reversal. You are in excellent hands with Dr Berger. After the surgery my tube lengths are both 9 cm YEAH!!!! I will keep you posted with my progress. If you have any questions at all please let me know. I am happy to share experience with you. . . . Thank you.
 

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Posted by in-Gods-hands August 31, 2009 01:52 PM:
 
ashtangi I did not have the same thing done as you but I did have really bad PTLS. Which I am so happy to say has improved greatly. I am working with Dr.B on the PTLS topic. I wish you all the best. If you would like it my email is ranisheets23 at yahoo. You have picked the right doctor. Miranda
 

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Posted by ashtangi August 31, 2009 10:21 PM:
 
11 Needles, In God's Hands & Jan,

Wow, thanks for the awesomely quick replies to this thread.

I think it may be of benefit to others in the future, and it has already been helpful to me.
11 Needles: Glad to hear that you are doing so well! Without disclosing too much identifying information, can you please share this with me: what would you describe as your overall "physical condition" prior to the surgery: physically fit, average, overweight, etc... The reason I ask is that I would be curious to hear how well you are recovering. General physical condition has a direct reflection on how quickly folks tend to recover after surgery. Considering the fact that you are just 5 days post- op and going back to work, I take that to be a great sign overall.

I intend to give myself at least a week off, and will shoot for more like seven full post-op days before I return. I also intend to do a whole lot of preventative- holistic interventions (mainly, fish oil, a great multi vitamin, MSM ( a MUST for healing tissues), zero refined foods, no alcohol, and some good old carrot juice and wheatgrass juice. Yes, I am a health- food nut. I am very into healthy living and taking care of myself. Ironically, I think this has contributed to the PTLS- my theory is that my overall state of health tilted me towards localized rejection of the Essure coils- because I am so otherwise well...

So, I am curious how you are feeling in relationship to how you would expect to feel considering your overall health status and prior to the surgery.

Also, I would LOVE to hear if your anemia and fatigue improve. My body literally shuts down a few days prior to menses now, something it just did not do before Essure. Please keep us posted on how and if you feel a "return to normalcy" over the next few months. Also, are you needing to take much medication for the pain? Hopefully not...THANKS!

Congrats on the 9CM tube length. Very nice indeed.

Jan- if you read this... how long post Essure can one resume both exercise and/or sex? I am specifically going to target healing well in order to prevent adhesions... not that "I" really have anything to do with it... I know it is up to God. But as a doctor, you know that I know too much and I just dread the thought of developing adhesions. So, I want to follow all the "rules" and heal well.

In God's Hands- If you want any info on my PTLS, I will gladly share with you!

Thanks everyone here for sharing.
It is MUCH appreciated!
 

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Posted by 11Needles September 01, 2009 10:40 AM:
 
ashtangi,
I would say that I am average, 5ft 6in (although Erica RN would say i am 5ft 5in) about 130. . . I try to exercise but don't like to. I think I am just lucky. This is my second Major surgery this year (had my thyroid removed in January-nothing wrong with the functionality but had two large nodules in it). I don't take vitamins. . .my diet. . . let me put it this way, there is nothing wrong with eating ice cream for breakfast. . . it has MILK! As far as how I expected to feel. . well I figured I would feel like crap afterward. Surprisingly I feel good. Yes I experiencing some pain but its more of an annoyance than anything and its not constant pain either. Before Essure I was pretty active. . single parent of two boys who play sports I would generally sleep about 2 to 4 hours a night my house was always clean and laundry always done. After essure I pretty much couldn't do anything. I began sleeping about 15 hours didn't want to do anything either. clean house, take kids places, I pretty much became a home-body.  

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Natural pregnancy is possible after Essure removal, Read Essure reversal patient Michelle's experience  proof that all of the above are possible.

Is It Beneficial To Get A Tubal Reversal for PTLS?

A frequent topic of discussion on the Tubal Reversal Message Board is about the issue of Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS). Cristina ('dixechick77') posed this question: "Since I had my tubes tied, I have noticed less libido, more headaches, longer periods with heavier bleeding including clots, unbelievable mood swings and heavy cramping. WHAT IS THIS? I have read different views! Would it be beneficial to have a Tubal Reversal?" She receives responses other message board participants about the issue of Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS), such as "Immediately after TL, I had severe headaches, bleeding with clots, depression, anxiety, skin problems and the list goes on. I am on CD 5 and have had only slight cramps, no headaches and no mood swings although results vary from woman to woman. I had immediate results after TR. Tubal reversal was worth every penny for me," and "Absolutely! It is called Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome and I had it bad. My tubes were tied for 3 years and I suffered right away. I am six month post-TR and am 95% back to what I consider normal. I say, go for it!" Another member adds, "After I had my tubes tied, AF started to change. My AF before the TL used to be 4 days, mild cramps, and medium flow. I had my TR Nov. 08 and have not had a single episode of flooding and no cramps. I am amazed. I am back to my old self!" Dixechick77 asks "Why aren't doctors diagnosing this?" That question has been discussed in detail on the Tubal Reversal Blog.

This is topic Is It Beneficial To Get A Tubal Reversal for PTLS? on the Tubal Reversal Message Board.

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Posted by dixechick77
Hello everyone! My name is Christina. I am 31 years old - with 3 daughters. After my 3rd daughter (6 years ago) I had my tubes tied. In the last 3 years I have noticed less libido, more headaches, longer periods with heavier bleeding (including clots), unbelievable mood swings and heavy cramping ALL the time, not just during my menstrual. WHAT IS THIS??? I have read different views! Would it be beneficial to have a Tubal Reversal???

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Posted by anesiajackson
Christina, I am 33 yo with 3 children. I had my TL in 2003 and just had my TR on the 1st. Immediately after TL, I had severe headaches, bleeding with clots, depression, anxiety, skin problems and the list goes on. I am on CD 5 and have had only slight cramps, no headaches and no mood swings although results vary from woman to woman. I had immediate results which I am grateful for, and the chance for #4 with DF. I wish you luck, TR was worth every penny for me.

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Posted by dixechick77
Thank you anesia. My hubby would love to have another shot for a boy - but I am not sure if I am ready quite yet. But I am DEFINATELY ready to get rid of these headaches,cramping etc. etc. We are looking at getting the TR in June, I hope. We are waiting on his disability rating to come in from the Veterans Administration to decide WHEN we can afford to do it. Thank you for your help! Good luck on #4

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Posted by Flutist29
Absolutely! It is called Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome and I had it bad. My tubes were tied for 3 years and I suffered right away. I am six month post-TR and am 95% back to what I consider normal.
I say, go for it!

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Posted by dixechick77
Thank you!!! I have been looking through some of the other posts! Why aren't doctors diagnosing this?!?!?!?! This is worse than anything ever! My family doctor just kept prescribing zoloft or whatever to help, but it doesn't! My husband thinks I don't want him anymore - which could not be further than the truth, but I just don't CRAVE sex anymore, let alone anything else!!!!! Thank you ladies for your insight!

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Posted by Flutist29
I didn't either and it frustrated my husband alot. We've had sex more the last six month than the previous 3 years before my TR. LOL!
The libido returned within a couple weeks following my TR.
Needless to say, DH is HAPPY!

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Posted by dixechick77
I am glad to hear that I am SO not alone! Thank you for the support ladies!

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Posted by aliyahsdream
I am in the same boat. The doctors kept saying I was just depressed, that is why I was so tired, or I had Chronic Fatigue, etc. They gave me meds that did not work and made me feel worse. I am so grateful that I found out about PTLS. My doctor blew a gasket, but there was no way he was giving me another medication that I do not need. I am looking forward to some relief from the symptoms. So is DH. LOL It has gotten to the point with the fatigue that I am almost bedridden, especially during AF, but all the time now. I thought I was alone, but am so grateful for all of you that have been where I am and that there is hope. Thanks so much!

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Posted by ajherr
After I had my tubes tied, AF started to change. Cramps as well as flooding. To the point that I needed to be home "in case" it happened. My AF before the TL used to be 4 days, mild cramps, and medium flow. I had my TR Nov. 08 and have not had a single episode of flooding. NO CRAMPS. I am amazed. I am back to my old self! Praise the Lord!

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Posted by dixechick77
Ladies I am now getting so excited about having the TR done! My DH is as well! LOL. I am with all of you on the sleeping fits and cramping - but the MIGRAINES are outrageous. They come on at the blink of an eye and take me going to sleep to get them to ease off - not go away. Does anyone else Wake Up with a headache? Other than normal daily life issues - I have no stress. So I have nothing that should be giving me these. Anyways - I thank all of you for your input and keep the posts coming! I am ready for the TR! Hoping in June!!!

Your Personal Journey From Tubal Ligation To Tubal Reversal Surgery

A member of the Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center message board asks for others women's reason for deciding to have tubal reversal surgery with Dr. Berger and how their journey began. Other members post their stories and give encouragement to one another. Many women often question their reasons for wanting to have tubal reversal surgery. The message board offers women a chance to talk about their questions and gather information to help them make the best decision for themselves and their families.


This is topic Your journey from TL to TR in forum New Message Board Members at Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 26, 2008 05:12 PM:
Hi!
I'm newer to the board.I wanted to know what brought you to Dr. Berger and brought you on this journey?
The reason why I'm asking is I'm so confused what to do. I want to have the TR for PTLS symptoms but I want another baby too. My lovely DH started me on this journey when he said he often wishes we could of tried again for a boy. Hense my screen name 2girlsmama. Then after I find this wonderful site, and we find out that I'm not crazy and the feelings and symptoms I have are most likely due to PTLS, he decides that our family is complete and doesn't think we should do it to have DC but for my health, and since concluding I would have to do some form of birth control so that I was not pregnant all the time. So he has back down from wanting me to have the TR because he feels we are complete. He also thinks since I would have to be on the BC anyways why have the surgery!
I also just found out my best friend who has been nothing but supportive thru this process is pregnant, and it's funny because her and her DH thought their family was complete!!
I just wanted to see if others were like me struggling to make the decision to either have it or to not. I know it can only be up to me and my DH.Has anyone else's DH felt like they wanted the TR and then changed their mind? Also I take BC pills due to the heavy bleeding which I've been on now for a year, and I was going to try to go off them this month, I skip the normal day I start and immediately felt like crude, bloated.So I took the pills and this whole week I have felt like a bump on a log, nothing interests me, I'm short with my DDs and just want to crawl in hole. I don't know if it is depression or just disappointment in possibly not getting the TR.
Any opinions or stories would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Sherry

Posted by Blessings (Member # 9736) on February 26, 2008 05:35 PM:
Sherry,
My DH and I have 5 children together and I had the TR surgery due to the PTLS (BEST THING I EVER DID). We did not want anymore children since we have 5 already. Since my surgery I have not taken any precautions not to get pregnant.. we decided if it was God's will for us to have another baby that he will bless in this area , if not then that is okay too.
I feel like my old self before TL and for that it was well worth anything even if I never do have another baby.
I will be turning 40 soon and will take precautions not to get pregnant if I do not get that BFP very soon.
You could always have the surgery and if you later decide to TTC then you will have that option plus, you could help eleviate your PTLS symptoms.
Best of wishes, christie

Posted by sprocket (Member # 10860) on February 26, 2008 05:56 PM:
hi sherry,
i had my TL when i was 18 yrs old. i had already had 2 children and was in a very bad marriage, so i thought it best. well from then on until TR my periods were awful. always painful, 7 - 10 days long and very,very heavy. i had started looking into TR around the year 2000, b/c of my periods ( my doctor never would put me on the pill, said it was a waste b/c of TL) my husband at the time wouldn't hear of it. he said the period thing was a lie and i was trying to trap him with child support if we split up. needless to say i realized b/c of that and other things we didn't need to be together any longer. i suffered for 5 more years with the terrible pains . in 2005 i meet my soul mate. we discussed more children right off the bat and i explained about the TL and about the TR. he was all for it,after we got married. so we got married 3/7/07 and 5/2/07 we had the TR. he has 7yr old triplets from his 1st marriage and i have 2 teenagers from my 1st marriage. so in a sense we are complete also. we mainly did the TR b/c of my problem, but have since decided to try for more babies. to me if you are already on BC what would it hurt to have the surgery and then stay on them and later if you and DH decide to have more children you can. TR is most definately worth getting rid of PTLS. my periods are now only 3-5 days, alot less painful and no where near as heavy. good luck and best wishes.
danyelle

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 08:45 AM:
Hi Sherry I had my TL in October of 03. I was in a marriage were things were not good and did not want to add any more children to the mix. I have moved on and God has blessed me with a great man. Funny thing is he is younger than me too. He does not have any children of his own but has took my 2 in as his own. He does all the daddy stuff even the sick stuff. I am getting the TR to make me feel better from the PTLS and if God choices to bless us with a baby we would love it. I am set to get my TR in March on the 24th.I remember that before my TL I loved getting out and doing things I loved life. After the TL I want to just stay home never get out a lot even though I love the great outdoors. I want to be myself again so I can be a better mom. I understand where you are coming from. If you want to you are welcome to come to the Waiting Room and talk with all the lady's in waiting. I wish you all the best in what you decided to do. Miranda

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 02:45 PM:
Ladies
Thank you for your tell me your stories.I want relief from these problems. I'm scared I will be the only one that doesn't benefit from this surgery. It's nice to hear when others have the same symptoms as me and having doctors telling them it all in their heads. Is the waiting room for posters already scheduled or for anyone considering the TR?
Sherry

Posted by hopefulin2008 (Member # 11297) on February 27, 2008 03:35 PM:
Hey ladies I hope its alright if I jump in! I have not had my TR yet but I am schudeled for Aug 4 so that will put me at 2 years and 8 months and some odd days between TL and TR. I am having my TR so that my DH and I can have another baby but not only that I would love some relief from the PTLS sysptoms that I have too. Hope you ladies are having a blessed day in the Lord! Jennifer in NC

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 03:46 PM:
The Waiting Room is for all lady's waiting in some way. You are more than welcome even if you have not set your date yet. My name is Miranda and I am keeping the list going right now. I started caring for the list before I set my date. I was weired to put my own name on the list. I wish you all the best.

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 10:23 PM:
Thank you Miranda. I have read the posts in the Waiting Room. I'll have to go over and post. Thanks

Posted by beebeekinsers (Member # 12115) on February 29, 2008 10:39 AM:
Hello Ladies,
My journey begins almost ten years ago. I was 26, having my 4th child, and near the end of my marriage. I now have a wonderful DH, who married me 8 years ago, knowing that I could not have more children. We spoke of reversal early in our marriage, but were not fortunate enough at that time to find Dr. Berger. Suddenly, we began to talk about it again, after I found this web site, and we are both very excited bout the possibility. I have not scheduled the surgery yet, since we need to save the money up, and I also need to lose some weight. I'm 36 now, and feel confident that there is time for me. My kids are thrilled that we're planning this.

Posted by Lisa D. (Member # 11010) on February 29, 2008 12:13 PM:
Hi Sherry!

I didn't have PTLS, so I can't speak to that, but I can speak to the fear. I, too, was more than a little anxious about ttc again. So many questions and I would waffle back and forth between, yes I want another baby, well maybe that would be too much to add another child?-Always struggling to leave it in God's hands. Anyway, we went through with the surgery and I was soooo nervous because I assumed we would be just as fertile as we were before. I swear He would just breath on me and I would get preggers!!! LOL Well, here I am almost a year post TR (5/1/07) and not one BFP. Oh how I wish I could have the 'problem' of being too fertile!! So my point of all this is- I had nothing to worry about. We don't have to use protection, because it isn't easy for us to conceive anymore. We have to work at it and that seems to be the case for alot of gals here. Though, everyone is not the same and the type of your TL makes a difference. Just thought I'd share our experience. GL
Lisa

Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome After Tubal Reversal

What Happens to Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome After Tubal Reversal?

Tubal Reversal Message Board members discuss the difference in their symptoms of Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome before and after tubal reversal surgery.

One members states, "I had my tubal reversal due to PTLS. I had a lot of bad symptoms. Mine were fits of rage, no sex drive, could not sleep, weight gain, hair loss, depressed (never was before), terrible long AF's. I had the tubal reversal in 3/06 and by the time of my first cycle most of them were gone. I was much better and my family saw a huge difference in me without me even asking around 3 months. My first AF cycle was back to pre-TL. I was very fortunate that my surgery was a complete success and this happened for me very soon after TR." Another reports, "It takes about a full cycle and you'll notice the difference. I don't know how it works or why, but it works. It's truly amazing."

The following is the topic PTLS after TR in forum After Tubal Reversal on the Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by heavenlycreation (Member # 11842) on February 09, 2008 02:51 PM:

I had my TR on 2/4, not because I'm trying to have another baby, but because of PTLS. I've not been myself since my TL in April of 07. It started w/ weird, electric shock type of headaches, that I can feel in my mouth and face, and then turned into these mental states where I just feel frozen and disconnected, not wanting to be around people. Social situations became very uncomfortable, even playing with my children was not the same. I feel brain dead all the time, and can't concentrate on anything. I thought I was going crazy until I found out about PTLS in Dec 07. God answered my prayers when I was able to schedule my surgery in Jan.

Now I'm 5 days past my surgery and wondering when I'm going to be normal again. I wonder if there is anyone else out there like me, who had the same symptoms. I just wish I knew what to expect. The unknown is so hard to deal with. Today I definitely feel different than before the surgery. I have a racing heartbeat, lightheaded, headache, and some light vaginal bleeding. All of those things on top of my usual symptoms, that have not gone away yet. I'm hoping that the new symptoms are due to hormone changes, which would be a good thing!

If any of you have experienced the same things, when did you feel normal again after the TR? If my new symptoms are from hormone changes, how long should that last?

Tiffany

Posted by mama12 (Member # 11260) on February 09, 2008 03:17 PM:

It takes about a full cycle and you'll notice. I got pregnant right after, had a MC and even the MC was less than my normal period bleeding.

I had a rough AF last month, I o'd on my non tube side, this month though??? A PIECE of cake, my worst symptoms were the usual bloating water weight which is normal PMS and sore BB's that's it LOLOLOLOL I cannot even smile huge enough to show how happy I am to have relief!!! My AF? Almost over and started on the 7th.

It takes a full cycle and gets better from there I promise!!!! You'll see. The first O I noticed increased sex drive, and I was warmer I was ALWAYS cold after T:, it's so nice. The perpetual pain in my ovaries??? GONE!

You should have only normal PMS symptoms, give it a month you'll see and it gets even better after, it did for me.

The disconnected fuzzy brain feeling was my very first symptom of PTLS and it is HELL. That was a huge flag to me all I could think was "WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!!!" That is gone too. I'm back finally. Thank God. That was THE worst symptom of it all I think, when your heads in a fog life is just no fun you know that! Give it a little time you'll see what i'm talking about it all just goes away like magic.

PMS is a breeze in comparison to the C%^& I dealt with for 7 years. I don't know how it works or why Dr. Berger I don't think knows either but it works. It's truly amazing.

Give it 2 full cycles you'll get the full effect.

You should write down all your PTLS symptoms now while you remember them, then in 2 months see where you are at. You'll be surprised I bet!

PTLS was the MAIN reason I had this done, I want another baby, but that's not a guarantee, the PTLS thing though I was at the end I was DONE. I was not tolerating it any longer. I had a 14 day long period then I scheduled. It was truly my last step before hysterectomy.

Posted by Blessings (Member # 9736) on February 09, 2008 03:31 PM:

I also had my TR due to PTLS..I had alot of bad symptoms. Mine were fits of rage, no sex drive, could not sleep, weight gain, hair loss, depressed (never was before), terrible long AF's.

I had the TR in 3/06 and by the time of my first cycle most of them were gone. I was much better and my family saw a huge difference in me without me even asking around 3 months. My first AF cycle was back to pre-TL. I was very fortunate that my surgery was a complete success and this happen for me very soon after TR.

I hope you get relief soon. You do need to give it some time though, after being on this board for almost 2 years, everyone heals at a different pace and you cannot really compare yourself to anyone else.

Blessings, Christie

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 09, 2008 05:27 PM:

Christie what you talked about sounds just like me right now. I am to get my TR in March-08. I am look forward to being me again. I just had a rage fit cause my son broke the paper holder on my printer. I have learnt to hold it in but that can not be good either. I can not wait till I am myself again. You lady's give me hope and ty for that. Miranda

Right now I am CD-31 so that is a big part of how I feel today. I just want to get away from everyone here at home or hide under the covers and stay in bed, lol.

More information on Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS)

Do Symptoms of Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome Improve After Tubal Reversal?

Tubal Reversal Message Board members disagree with the concept that symptoms that they have experienced since their tubal ligation are "just in their heads". They know that their symptoms are not imaginary and are grateful when their symptoms disappear after tubal reversal surgery.

The following is from the Tubal Reversal Message Board

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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 04:54 PM:

Hello everyone
My name is Sherry, I have two DDs 4 and 2. The other day my DH said to me over lunch, sometimes I wish we could still have kids.I had been having the thought for awhile, and due to my TL in 2006 could not without reversing. So I go to the internet and found this website. A total godsend!
Then I saw about post tubal ligation syndrome. I was like that is me. My gyn put me on BCP, and I didn't think why? I chalked it up to age and hormones, I'm only 31.My husband and I are talking about do the surgery ASAP. I found out I had the Parkland TL, has anyone had this type, and gotten pregnant, and has the PTLS stopped? TIA
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Posted by HopesAndDreams (Member # 11754) on February 05, 2008 07:05 PM:

Hi Sherry,
Welcome to the board! You will find so much information here. I've hanging around here for almost 5 years, but recently started posting. I'm 33 and I suffer PTLS so bad and have regretted my TL even on the OR table having it done. I just scheduled my surgery for April 11th! I've been saving for the past 3 years and finally able to schedule. Anyway, I didn't have the Parkland TL as you did, but I'm sure someone will chime in and help you with information. Again, welcome to the board and read up as much info as you can here. LOL
Dawn
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Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on February 05, 2008 07:18 PM:

Dear Sherry,
Welcome to the board. We have had many patients that have come for surgery for PTLS and most women report an improvement following the surgery. Not only are they feeling better but they also have a chance for another baby if they desire. Dr. Berger has performed the reversal procedure on many women that had a Parkland tubal ligation. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions or if I can assist you with anything. I look forward to hearing from you and hopefully meeting you soon. By the way, we do have openings at the end of February.
Rhonda RhondaB@tubal-reversal.net
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 10:54 PM:

Thanks for the welcome.
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Posted by momto10 (Member # 11808) on February 05, 2008 11:30 PM:

I had my surgery less than 1 month ago and I am already 80 to 90 % better...

Gwen
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Posted by Matt, ST (Member # 7398) on February 06, 2008 07:59 AM:

Hi Sherry here is a link you should check out that can give you more information about the Parkland procedure. I hope this is helpful for you.
Matt Murphy, ST
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Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 06, 2008 08:10 AM:

Sherry welcome to the boards. It is nice to meet you. If you want to you can come over to the waiting room and talk to everyone waiting to get their TR and when you set your big date I will proudly post your name on the list if you would like me to. I wish you all the best. I have talked to many lady's that have improved on the PTLS after the TR. They tell me it is a new day, they are themselves again. I am seeking on in March if Gods works it out and I am getting very excited. Prayers coming your way. Miranda
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 08:14 AM:

Sherry - here is the websites link for your TL you had done and the success rate with it-
http://www.tubal-reversal.net/tubal_ligation_resection.htm

I had PTLS SO bad- I too was put on BC pills- didn't help! They did a D&C because of all the bleeding every week- didn't help. They did a lap and when in to see what was wrong- NOTHING the next step they wanted to do was a hystorectomy (sp?) I'm 34- I had my TL in 2000 and have four kids. I didn't know what was wrong with my body but I knew there was something- every DR just told me it was all in my head and there was nothing wrong. I was causing my body to do these things.... YEA Right!!! After 4 years of hopelessness I found Dr. Bergers website.. There was once again hope for me...
Took a year almost two to get the money - last March 9th, 2007 I had my TR and it was the BEST thnig I have ever done!!! The staff there at chapel hill were AWESOME!!! I wish all dr.'s and staff ran their bussinesses that way! They were friendly and caring and made me feel important!
Dr. Berger was amazing!!! HE talked to me and listened-- he didn't think these symptoms were crazy or in my head- He said he has seen several women with the same thing... The whole experience at chapel hill was wonderful!!
I came out with 5.5 on my rigt and 5.0 on left for my tube lengths. The first cycle after my TR was great!!! Then each month I started feeling my body getting back to normal!! Almost all of my PTLS symptoms were gone and I had my sex drive back and my moods were SO much better!!
In Aug-2007 I went in for my HSG to see if my tubes were open because I still hadn't gotten a BFP-- I followed Dr. bergers instructions to a T -- I was driving my Dr. here crazy because I kept saying Dr. Berger says this and Dr. Berger say that (lol) They were both open and the dye flowed prefectly... IN Jan 2008- I got my first BFP (note- I was one of the later ones to get a BFP then the rest of the March 07 girls) I am now due 09-15-08 and thrilled to death!!!
Finding Dr. Berger and going to chapel hill was the best choice ever!!! I even think if I never got a BFP I would have been happy with the results of the PTLS being gone and Dr, Berger believing there was such a thing...

Good Luck on your journey- Follow your heart and don't wait!!!

Lots of Love,
Becki
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Posted by mama12 (Member # 11260) on February 06, 2008 08:43 AM:

2 girls mama I've had two preganancies, 1 was a MC, which happens. One was an EP I suspect I've had tube width problems on that side, after surgery it was way too skinny. My oldest DD I think had a hang up in that tube, I had repeated Negative preg tests with her and lots of pain on that side, I think just the way my body was made, it's been skinny since birth on that side. So no big deal, they took it out I'm fine. I suspect even without any surgeries I may have had troubles with that tube. My left side is perfect so we are trying again. We are getting excited!!
As far as PTLS my periods now instead of being 9-14 days long, they are now 5 days long.
The exhaustion and pain all month are GONE!!
I've got normal PMS nothing unbearable.
For PTLS it works. I can obviously get pregnant and we will be trying again soon.

Even with the MC and EP I know I've made the right choice getting TR. It's really changed my life I feel alot better now.
Even down to being warmer I used to be cold all of the time, I'm warmer now... It improves symtoms you would'nt think were, or notice until they are gone. Kind of amazing really.
They've tried for years to put me on BC I've even had hysterectomy offered due to the pain...
I've held out, NO pills nothing. I'm glad I did, TR was the answer. It works. I don't know how or why, someday technology will tell us why i'm sure.
There is risk involved but even after everything we've had happen I have to say I'm 100% still completely happy with my choice!!! I wouldn't change a thing.
PTLS is NOT in your head, we can say it to you but I guarantee you'll see after you get surgery. The bleeding I was having was completely out of control it was like hemmoragging every month and now it's at a good normal AF. Like I was before TL.
You'll probably still have some PMS that is normal you are supposed to it means your ovaries are working! But near bleeding to death every month the horrible pain, is just intolerable, Becki I know how it was for you it was the same for me over the top and dysfunctional to say the least.
Thank GOD for Dr. Berger. He is the best!! He changed my life for the better.
2 girls mama at 31??? Seriously... that's the thing you have to question, I know I did that's how I found Dr. Berger. I'm 35. There's just a point where it doesn't make sense anymore. The logic isn't there. It could happen, but not in the numbers it is, there is obviously a link between TL and PTLS.
You've come to the right place.

I also am with Becki, even if we don't have a baby, the PTLS relief is so incredible that I honestly don't care, I know it's horrible to say with everyone TTC, but it is true.
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 06, 2008 10:36 AM:

Thank you all so much. It is so nice to know I'm not alone.I thought I was going crazy.I feel like I'm mean for no reason at all.I just want to cry sometimes, it is like it comes out of nowhere.I thank God for my DH speaking up, were on the fence about another child, but when I saw the posts about the PTLS I felt like a big weight had been lifted off me.Some of my concerns are what are the risks? As my DH says I don't want to lose you.It makes me so mad that the doctors who do these TLs are allowed to not tell us the risks.Thank God for Dr.Berger and his staff.
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 11:04 AM:

2girlsmama
With any surgery there is risk involved- BUT I can tell you this- I have had 6 laps, a TL, TR and my apendix taken out--
This was by far the easiest surgery I have ever had.. They are that good there!!!
My TL was horrible and hurt for several days--
With my Tr I remember getting on the bed and Dr. Berger coming in and said HI said something to the nurses and the next time I knew they were waking me up-- I was SO tired but the asked me how the pain was and I really didn't have any I just wanted to sleep. Dr Berger came in and told me how the surgery went - and my lenghts, I drank a juice box-- IT WAS SO YUMMY!!! Went back to the hotel and slept most the day - I really didn't feel any pain- I did take my med on time and the next day the nurse came in and checked me-- I then drove 7 hours to get home and once I was home I didn't need to take any more meds..
I felt very relaxed and comforted at chapel hill, I knew I was where I was supposed to be and all would be well!!!
I just wish I would find a dr. and staff like Dr. Berger and his staff- They really spoiled me! Now I have high expectations as the service I should get (lol)

My DH was not sure too- he thought it was all a scam and was pretty worried I would have something go wrong or get an infection- you never know about Dr's these days-- But once I had my consult and we met the staff and the care, then Meeting Dr. Berger my DH was impressed just as much as I was and he told me he had a good feeling about this!!!

You know after I go PG and the blood draws and all that protocal - MY DH still says do what ever Dr. Berger suggests because that is what is best!!!!

MY first numbers were 10,333 and the dr. office would not do an ultra sound because they said it was still to early and they wouldn't see anything - dr. Berger says you can at 1500-2500 so we talked about it and my DH said what would Dr. Berger suggest you do-- I said go to the ER
And off we went-- They did teh ultra sound an sure enough you could see the sac and yoke...

I'm tell you - This is the best place you could ever ask for- Dr. Berger is hands down the best DR in the world. I know you and your DH will love him too!!!!

Lots of Love!
Becki
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