Showing posts with label Pregnant. Show all posts
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Sunday, October 19, 2008

Helpful Ideas for Becoming Pregnant After Tubal Reversal Surgery

Tubal Reversal Message Board member Jan asks other patients to share what they did to help become pregnant after tubal reversal procedures by Dr. Berger and Dr. Monteith. Many patients respond to her question and give helpful hints, ideas, and advice. There are many things you can do to aid in becoming pregnant more quickly after tubal reversal surgery. One of the most useful tools is to use an ovulation predictor kit each month to make sure you are ovulating and to help pinpoint the most fertile time of your cycle.

This is topic What did You do to get your BFP? in forum After Tubal Reversal at Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by Peach

I have been reading lots of boards, posts, and logs about what so many have done to get pregnant.. Due to some age groups. more should be done as you get older. Since not everyone is a part of a certain thread... maybe posting your suggestions, experiences, and what you have done in assisting in getting you fertility "in check" to get pregnant....not to mention going to a fertility Specialist. ie: EPO, Preseed, clomid, fertilaid... etc... What did you take or do to acchieve your goals? Can we get some helpers out there to add their list of "things to do" while TTC.
Though I did not get my BFP every since my TR in 05 and goning through LAp in 12/07. I still would like to let you know what I did, and what I should have continue to do....
Preseed, clomid many times, prenate vitamins, extra folic acid, mucinex (not that i needed it), and started eatting right and walking 1 hour a day.

me 44
dh 45
tl 86'
tr 4/05- HSG- 10/05- left blocked, right open
IUI 4 times every other month in 06-07 NEG results
RE done a Lap/Recannulation 12/07- both were blocked - now supposedly both OPEN.
My cycles all were ovulatory... and levels were good. 4.6-7.8 only once did it get to 10.3 for FSH. Lining always thick enuff. dh sperm was over 20mil- considered normal for his age.. morphology motility was a bit low but well enuff. Guess not!
Now What?

Thanks
Jan


Posted by Jennifer K.

We had our TR in August, 2005. It took us 22 months to get pregnant with Lydia Grace - that was after 4 miscarriages and 1 suspected ectopic. Here is what I was doing the month we got pregnant with Lydia Grace:

Metformin (1500mg)
Baby aspirin
Clomid (100mg on CD5-9)
Trigger shot on CD15
Progesterone (100mg 2x daily starting 2 days after O)
BD CD14,15, 16 & 17 (1x per day)
Preseed
Prenatal
Acupuncture (1x per week started 6 weeks before BFP)
No coffee
Eating right
Mild exercise

I was diagnosed with PCOS and unknown repeat m/c. I did all the tests and everything came back normal. I started seeing an RE about a year after my TR. We got our first BFP the first month we were seeing her and our first month on clomid. Unfortunately, it ended in a miscarriage. After our 3rd m/c our RE started treating us as if we had been diagnosed w/ repeat m/c even though my test results were normal. I had good egg reserves and a good lining and the clomid helped me to ovulate regularly. My RE thought that the PCOS was affecting my egg quality and that we needed to keep trying until we "popped off a good one" which we eventually did. We now have a happy, healthy, beautiful 9 month old baby girl that is THE light of my life.

I hope this helps those still out there waiting for their BFP. I'm living proof that it can and will happen if you hang in there and keep trying.

Jenn



Posted by MRC

Jan....the first time I got pregnant I was on a "break" and did nothing special but let off the pressure...that ended in m/c. The second and third time I got pregnant was the same scenario...my dh was drinking ALOT of redbull...the second pregnancy ended in m/c as well..but third time was a charm...I'm just about 20 weeks pregnant with my first tr baby. Have your dh drink redbull before bd...it can't hurt...another girl on the march 06' board has here dh do that and she has a beautiful tr baby girl. You are mor than welcome to come join us over there as well [Big Grin]
Michelle
TR 3-6-06
m/c 9-29-06
m/c 2/13/08
BFP 7-3-08 EDD 3-9-09


Posted by Tanya from VA

TR 9-7-06
BFP 9-11-07
Carly 5-13-08

The cycle I got pregnant I did nothing in particular. I used my ClearBlue monitor and I OPK'ed twice. We bd'ed twice - every other day - only twice in the fertile period.

I ttc for a year and had two miscarriage. In that time I took took asprin, used Pre-Seed, took vitamins, had my dh take vitamins, used my monitor, used OPK's, tried the Instead, laid on my back after bd'ing - and I've become a believer that half of this stuff we do while ttc doesn't really do anything.

I know that sounds harsh - I certainly tried it all myself - but the one time I did absolutely NOTHING, and didn't even take it overly serious (we were moving, stressed, I didn't even hardly temp and didn't test until my AF was due) I got my sticky BFP.

Good luck to all! [Smile]


Posted by HisWill

Jan,

The number one thing I did, was prepare for the fact (as much as possible-it's a lie to say that dissapointment and heartache wouldn't be normal) that I didn't know what my outcome would be. I knew many ladies on the boards conceived the first time trying, others take a while, and some never become pregnant. The one factor in common is that all want another child(ren). I was truly ready that this may not be God's plan for me. I didn't want to be heartbroken over something I wasn't guaranteed. I was actually surprised I became pregnant, because I had been so realistic about it not being my call.

I didn't OPK or chart, because I know I would over-focus on this, and I didn't believe making it the focus of my life would be my honestly surrendering it to God how I intended.

I know this is a very personal journey for all of us ladies-I'm just sharing how I embarked on my journey. I pray for all of us to have peace regarding our fertility.

I take herbs to promote overall health. I don't believe beginning something for the sake of fertility is necessarily very effective. I take the following for my overall health and I do it whether TTC or not..so it's been years that I've been on it.

Good Multi vitamin
3000 mg vitamin C
EPO from CD1-O when TTC, otherwise all month
Super B complex
Fish Oil 1000 mg
Baby aspirin all the time. I take this because I lost a baby due to positive ANA. I don't believe it necessarily helps get pregnant, but I know for sure it protects me from m/c.

Husband takes good multi vitamin
zinc
1000 mg vit C
Super B complex
Baby aspirin for heart health
Fish oil 1000 mg

Andrea-31
Dh-37 next month
DS-11
DS-6
DD-5
DD-3
TL 4/19/05 at time of c-section
TR 7/30/08
BFP 9/16/08-1st cycle TTC
EDD 5/28/09


Posted by debjim

Not trying to be funny or anything, but all we did was BD during O time, I didn't even use OPK's I just knew around when I would O.

It took 5 months for the first baby and 3 the second.


Posted by Marty

For me it took 0 months for my first TR baby and he is 9 months. I breastfeeded the first 6 and now that he is 9 months Im pregnant so I would say it took 2 months for Baby # 2....

Martha


Posted by Marty

Sorry did not write what I did... Lots of you know what and Fertil-Aid- Also eating healthy and lots of jogging seems both times I got pregnant is when I would be in pretty good shape...


Posted by BlessedMommyKat

I have been taking pre natal vitamins for 18 months, I've tried charting/temping, using opk's alternating BD days...I'm stumped as to how some of you just don't really think about it and... poof! You're pregnant! Are those of you who have gotten bfp's physically fit and within normal BMI ranges? I'm overweight and can't help but to wonder if that is hurting me.


Posted by Amy1234

Pre-Seed + opk + Dh drank Redbull 10 minutes before bd.


Posted by HisWill

Hi BlessedMommyKat,

My BMI is in a good range. Before this pregnancy I was 5'9 and about 140.

I truly think being overweight may cause problems. Obviously, plenty of overweight women become pregnant, but because fat cells in women produce estrogen dominance, it is likely that being overweight doesn't help fertility. High amounts of body fat can increase estrogen-or prolong the estrogen phase, thus reducing the mature follicles and ovulation.

I understand being overweight. In my first pregnancy, my doctor thought I had lupus. He placed me on 80 mg of prednisone a day. I started out at 120lbs, and at 34 weeks when I delivered I was 218. Additionally, with each of my pregnancies I gain WAY over the recommended amounts of weight on very healthy foods and the right amount of calories. My doctor says that I have a maternal storing thing going on. Unfortunately, I don't shed much weight through bf'ing like my friends! So I have to work hard after each of my 4 children to lose a lot of weight to be healthy. I understand what it's like!

Best wishes!

Andrea


Posted by april1979

HI, I am 29 and my DH is 44, I had my TL in 01, and TR on 12-07, It took us 8 months to get pregnant. First I tried the figuring out when I O'd, and starting taking prenatal vitamins. After 5 months of trying, I had looked into Clomid and Pre-seed, Had DH tested, was normal, When I purchased the Clomid and Preseed I had to wait for next cycle, and AF never came. The month before, I had said that maybe this is not In God's plan for us to have a baby. And was going to give up. So, when I got pregnant, I was on nothing, BD'd Twice One at night and once in morning, (that is what did it for my sister too, BD'ing twice when O'ing)
I am over weight, my bmi is high, I know that does not help, But it doesn't make it impossible. So I hope this helps. Good Luck to all still trying! Oh due on 4-25-08!!!


Posted by AnitaA68

Jan, I'm sorry this journey hasn't been the one you had hoped for.

My TR was in November 05.

We tried everything we could come up with, for me and for DH. At first, it was just letting nature take it's course. After the HSG showed open tubes, we stepped it up a bit using temping OPKs, etc. We eventually went to an RE who diagnosed me with unexplained infertility. That was very disappointing since all tests came back with excellent results. We did a few rounds of drugs, IUIs and then IVF.

Each person is an individual case. What may work for one, may not for another. Being under weight or over weight can influence fertility. As well as what you eat, your environment, etc, etc. I remember how hard it was to hear someone say they did nothing special to get their BFP and to relax. Although they meant well, it usually made me feel terrible. I think the most important thing I did was to try to stay positive and not give up. And that was very hard by the time the two year mark rolled around. I wanted to continue to try every avenue we could to get a little one.

I hope you soon get your sticky BFP. I know how heartbreaking this whole experience can be.


Posted by BlessedMommyKat

Andrea (HisWill)

Thank you for addressing my thoughts on being overweight... I commend you for being so lean. What did you do to lose the weight so nicely? I find myself worrying about not eating properly for ttc and it becomes a downward spiral for me. Do you have any suggestions? I'm at the point where I am willing to try anything.

My RE says I am quote, "full of eggs" he counted 13-14 follicles on each of my ovaries and didn't think my weight was hurting me (but I cannot help but wonder) I am way heavier than when I was pregnant the first time. I remember being 6 weeks pregnant and 134. Now I'm not pregnant and I'm almost 200 pounds! So... my common sense says there's something to being overweight and ttc.


Posted by HisWill

Hi BlessedMommyKat,

The first thing I had to do is come to terms with my physical appearance. Since I was so young when I got pregnant the first time, my body was so "perfect"...well, 80 mg of prednisone, and subsequent chemo left me with stretch marks over 80% of my body. Additionally, when you stretch that much so quickly, there's a whole lot of baggy skin involved since prednisone causes a huge depletion in collagen.

Fortunately, I knew God brought me through that so I would give myself to Him completely. I had to be knocked upside the head a bit. Nearly losing my life at such a young age, made me very realistic about what life is about. I believe life is about serving Jesus Christ-"this thorn in my side is but a mere affliction.". I think God wants us to take care of our bodies, but not let them enslave us. I will never look like I did before hand, but I can do my best, you know?

So, I started some good vitamins, and began first walking and then jogging on the treadmill. I am really active will all the kids, but that was never enough. I had to really reduce my calories and fats, add in Omega's like fish oil, and simply eat better and eat less. Since I already cook all of our meals, and we eat healthfully, it's really just eating less and exercising more that did it. I added in tons of water, and a couple of cheap beginners Pilates videos.

There is a place of comfort with knowing everything in your life is in His hands. Knowing that my body has been an earthen vessel for His glory is all that matters. I am sure I'll have 6 months or so of hard work after this baby, but I won't starve myself to reduce my work later. All healthy and I'm sure I'll be looking at another 50+ lb weight gain!

I wish you the absolute best. So many are correct that you can do everything right and still not become pregnant, or you can be eating fast food all the time and not paying attention and you conceive. This is because it's in God's timing.

However, working towards the goal is very commendable, and very good for your overall health!

Blessings!

Andrea



Posted by BlessedMommyKat

Andrea... did you say chemo?

You are inspiring on so many levels. I thank you for your honesty and your testimony. I know some people take offense here, but not I. I am a believer and I am encouraged by your words... thank you.


Posted by Mary-MI

"I wish you the absolute best. So many are correct that you can do everything right and still not become pregnant, or you can be eating fast food all the time and not paying attention and you conceive. This is because it's in God's timing."

Let me get this straight.. you think that if God wants you to be pregnant, it will happen, no matter what we do? Then why have a TR???? If its his will, wouldn't you become pregnant with tied tubes???

I so wished we could have one post on here without religion being used as the answer to the question that someone has posted, looking for help.


Posted by klinger13

I have to agree with Mary-MI's last statement. This thread started out with people giving their great responses to the question asked, then completely morphed into a religious thread.

I really feel that I have the right to come to this board to read questions, answers, & advice, without feeling that I stepped into a religious message board. It can really make people (self included) very uncomfortable. Can we keep that in mind when responding so all can enjoy and find help from these boards, regardless of our belief system?

Thank you.
Amanda


Posted by angelsbaby629

Jan,
I thought your name looked familliar. I have been here since 2000 and had TR done 2002. After we had no bfp's by the 3rd month after TR I went to the dr and begged for clomid. It worked, 4months after TR we got pg with Gabriella. ofcourse we bd'd every day(sometimes 2x's and he was lovin that [Wink] ) then when Gabby was 6m we decided to try again. This time it wasnt so easy..it took us over 2 years and all the RE could say was it was unexplained infertility. we did 4 rounds of IUI, 1 incomplete(thanks to insurance) round of IVF that turned into a heavily medicated IUI cycle. clomid for 6 months, wait, 7 months, 3 of them with triggers. and countless medication, by mouth and injects. Then I gave up and decided that we were only meant to have Gabby. oh, i forgot we also had 2 hsg's to make sure my tubes were still open. out of the blue we got Preggers with Natalie-Jean.
This time i was trying to aviod (but no bc) getting pg and wham, it happened. not planned, but always welcomed.
I am so very sorry you are going through this. I still say I was taught a lesson of patients while trying to get pg with Natalie. either way. good luck hun and agian, I am sorry you're going through this mess. just remember, there IS a
light at the end of the tunnel. Jess


Posted by mama12

The best advice I can give, I've had 3 pregnancies in 1 year, lost 2 and am now nearing 4 months pregnant with this one.
I took vitamins all the way through, simple, just Flintstones complete. Made DH take them too.
Which regardless I've taken them for years just to make sure I'm healthy so even that isn't any different. I talk calcium too, everyday.
I didn't OPK, didn't temp, didn't chart. We just did it when I knew I was O'ing, felt like I was Oing. CD 10-14 of a 28 day cycle, that's it.
We NEVER stressed it, never got obssessed. Like Tanya says it didn't help her, I knew it wouldn't help me, even in Dr. Berger's office, he tried to tell me about OPK and charting I told him I won't do it, so lets just get this surgery done! If it's going to happen it will. Which is pretty much when I felt like it, I'm in the mood at O time naturally. Just take it easy and don't worry, don't get stressed.
Let BD be what it is, you and your DH being close. Forget the technicalities. We did and it worked 3 X.
If you have regular periods you are O'ing. So don't worry!! Just have fun everything else will take care of itself.
BTW w/ the 2nd BFP I lost my right tube, so this is a 1 tube baby. It took 4 months of trying and we did it.

I do recommend help though if you have irregular periods. In that case OPK is a good idea.
For me I didn't need it I'm very regular.

I wish you luck!! Keep TTC fun!!! [Smile]
In all honesty give it a year. You'll get it!

The only unnatural thing I did was have Dr. Berger in there. That's it.


Posted by onemoretracy

I had my TR on 11/08/07. I had used FF to chart for a couple of months beofre surgery just to get a feel for my cycle. I was not always good about keeping it up though!

When the time came to actively TTC I really talked about it with my midwife. She was very helpful and positive. She recommended the HSG and I had that done in March. Also I took Clomid (50mg) that cycle. I had taken it to concieve for my previous pregnancy (pre-TL and TR) As it turns out, one of my tubes is blocked, but that same cycle I had the HSG and also began the Clomid we concieved. I also took pre-natals and baby asprin daily (DH took this as well). I did give up caffeine too.

As far as timing, we were not stressing about it. We Bd about every other day from cd 10-20. I think I o'd that cycle around day 16, but I am not sure bc I wasn't charting, just keeping an eye on mucus changes and mood changes etc.

Good luck with your TTC and remember to have fun and enjoy each other! Now I am in the 3rd trimester, my DH is remembering those back to those good old days of TTC, lol!

~Tracy
EDD 12/22/08


Posted by TrulyBlessed

America is blessed with a great variety of people - we should celebrate that instead of always looking for something to jump down another's throat. And we are also blessed with many freedoms - one being religion, whether you want it, practice it or not - faith comes in many varieties. But maybe you should question why the mention of God "offends" you. No one is saying anything other than what they believe - you can choose to believe or not but just as you have the right to ignore we have the right to proclaim.

Now the people who try to shove it forcefully down your throat are a bit offensive - even me, a christian, will admit to that - because Jesus himself did not force his teachings on people. But just remember - for those of you who get "offended" by the talk of God - there are just as many of us who are out there that find the encouraging words of our fellow christians a balm in rough times. And yes, God can do all things but it was not him that made fertility impossible - it was her choice of TL that did. He gives us 100% control over our bodies, but that also means we suffer the concequences if we do not treat them right.

HisWill, you are very encouraging for us who are out there that are not "offended". I think you are very brave for standing up for your faith, even when people complain about it - because in the end you are not hurting anyone with your words, negativity in this world is rapant and I hope that one day when I get to do my TR and announce my pregnancy that there will be people like you still around that will praise and rejoice with me and my family.

Sorry that this is so long but it really just aggrevates me when people want to "shut down" a positive thing - last time I checked, true christians were not unhappy, negative people - even in the most dire circumtances.


Posted by HisWill

Yes Blessed, I had chemo.

Mary, I'm sorry you take offense. It isn't religion, it's Jesus Christ. No, I wouldn't become pregnant with tied tubes because I circumvented the will of God by tying off His blessings. Not the answer you wanted, but the one I believe.

There are lots of posts on this forum that don't deal with any bit of faith. I'm sure they will offer you more of what you want to hear.

I'm praying for blessings for every lady of the board, whether they personally offend me or not.

Blessings!

Andrea


Posted by momto10

Andrea, this is why I don't post much anymore. Faith and belief...religion whatever anyone wants to call it is so much a part of every opinion I have and every aspect of any help I have to offer that there is NO possible way I could write without refering to Christin some way. But as in many things in life offense to Christian religion is harped and therefore Christian religion is suspressed BUT if the roles were turned and I was prasing Budda, nobody would say a word. I guess I'll never understand why Christian support and comfort is attacked.

So if my way of speaking and my way of showing comfort to my TR sisters is NOT welcomed then..... I guess it's time for me to leave.

This entire forum was here for SUPPORT and COMFORT. If you need medical advice, hire a doctor!

Gwen


Posted by LIZZYpooh

Hello Ladies......I thank everyone of you who trust and believe God for your miracles...since He is the only one that gives life...i will always be trusting him...yes he could have caused me to get pregnant without a tr ...but faith without works is dead...if this board allowed all types of fussing and cussing some people wouldn't be offended with that at all...I am one that is not charting or any of that I am going to keep practicing with dh and will happen when God says so....I'm in love with Jesus and he is in love me.....


Posted by MOMZILLA

I am not a religious person. I was raised Catholic but do not practice. I know many people who are church-goers and still do bad harmful things to people. Likewise, I know many folks who do not attend mass (organized religion) and are very good people who have their own faith in God and serve in their own way. We need to be tolerant of each otther, no matter what our faith or beliefs. I, too, do not like it when people "push" their religion or beliefs on me. That being said, I do not think that is anyone's intent here. People go on this journey for different reasons (ptls vs TTC) and we all go through it in our own ways, taking comfort in words of others, support of family, medical advice or religion. I know it can be frustrating being on this journey that is such a hard struggle for many..it is hard to hear women say it is simply up to God when many are riding a roller coaster of meds, herbs, tests ,kits, temps, and all kinds of interventions. It is a very emotional and personal journey but we need to remember we are all individuals with different beliefs and perspectives and we need to respect our differences and still be there to offer whatever kind of support we can based on our own journies in life. Again, while I do not practice religion I believe in God and believe we just need to be there for each other. When my father in law was dying of prostate cancer I got pregnant unexpectedly (BC failure).I truly believe we were given a gift from God here. Though he was dying we had a wonderful new baby coming. It is unfortunate that he passed 10 weeks before I delivered but it was a positive thing for the family in a very sad time...Again, I am not religious but I still believe this was God's way of giving us happiness and a new focus in the midst of such a great loss. For me, I try to offer advice here based on my experiences in child-bearing and living with PTLS but not through a religious voice or persepctive. I find no fault in those who ride their faith through this journey and share from that view point. As long as nobody is trying to convert me (LOL) I am ok with everyone expressing their feelings and beliefs here. Try to remember why we are here..to help each other from our individual experiences and perspectives. If you do not care for a particular perspective..then feel free to disregard and move on to another post from yet a different perspective..This is a hard journey...let's not make it more stressful and hard on each other by taking offense where none is intended...We are all here to help because we care.

Tracy


Posted by momto10

Tracey it is just human nature to resort to the explaination of God's Will, when herbs, medicine, creams, surgeries, and IUI all fail. Humans throughout history have looked for reason when our methodes fail. I don't uderstand why that is so offensive. No-one has said you have to be Catholic or you that you have be believe what any of us say...

I will just never understand why words that are meant to offer comfort are so bad.... I know that these types of words comfort me. I want peopel to use them when speaking to me. I am sterile after TR....9 months post TR and NO positives..... It hurts me that maybe God doesn't will for me to have more....BUT... I find comfort in knowingthat maybe it's not my fault, maybe I just don't have 100% control over that part of my life. I not only find it comforting BUT it also relieves my guilt and my anxiety over trying.

Almost ALL "support" groups uses some sort of surrender to a higher power, AA, OA, and many secular mental health professionals instruct people to focus on ones "spiritual-self" in order to relieve stress. Heck Oprah even talks about it all the time... Not that I put too much Faith in her, she isn't fair off the pulse of America.

To everyone who has a problem with these type of words of advice/comfort; What would you prefer we say to offer comfort? Should we be just like you? Should we parrot your thoughts and advice? WHy is my advice any less important? Why, can't I jsut offer my advice and be ignored, when my advice/comfort isn't welcomed? How are we supposed to know who wants that kind of support and who doesn't? Should this forum become so politically correct that even herbs and homeopathey, should be discluded, afterall, science can't prove that either?

Maybe we should jsut have some Socialistic rules guiding our everyword, only saving what the powers that be would say... The who desides who the powers that be are? When I spoke to Dr. B and told him that I was just having the surgery to be Open to God's Will he didn't judge me. He accepted me with love and kindness, despite the fact that all I could do was talk about God and the TL being the BIGGEST mistake I've ever made.

Signed Gwen <who is compeltely baffled by why these words offend. If someone believes something else they can say, please don't talk about God around me. I would say, OK and I would make an effort to not do it again.


Posted by MOMZILLA

Gwen, I was addressing those who feel it is "offensive" when folks mention God. I do not agree with that..That was the point of me saying there is no "intent" here to preach, etc. I was not sure, from your response, if you thought I was expressing an issue with that. My point is that we all bring our individual prespectives here and we should not get offended or make that more stressful for each other. We need more tolerance and support and less worrying about where the advice originates. We are who we are and should not apologize for that, but we should support one another in this journey, despite our differences...

Tracy



Posted by momto10

OHHHH, gotcha MOMZILLA. Sorry. BTW, I love you screen name.

Gwen


Posted by MOMZILLA

Thanks. My screen name sort of reflected what I became with PTLS....I was so unhealthy, isolated, short-termpered and miserable..I lost the joy in being a mother to my 3 kids..I felt I became this evil Momzilla rather than just plain Mommy..I am so relieved to be back to my old self again after TR...I feel so badly for some of the women here who try so hard to get pregnant and stay that way. I was lucky to have the 3 kids I have without too much trouble.. I have had 3 m/cs in my life-time and 3 healthy kids. I am blessed to have them!

Tracy


Posted by LuceFamily

umm... so about those BFP's...

Lets get to the reason this forum is here... regardless of what our individual beliefs may be this board is intended to offer support to one another. So maybe we dont all have the same faith in common, but one thing we do have in common is that we have all struggled with the heartache and turmoil of having gone though a TL and wanting more than anything to have another child. I think there is always something we can learn from each other, lets take what we need from each others post here on the boards... and what we dont like or dont agree with, just move on. Come on guys, this is silly. Let support each other in our journey making children, not acting like children.



Posted by Mary-MI

Peach, I have only had one BFP that ended in E/P. Months prior I had an HSG, and my only tube was opened, 3 rounds of clomid, preseed and charting.

When I got my BFP, I was only charting. Now, my RE discovered I have PCOS. I am on my first cycle with Metformin, so we shall see if that works. I didn't realize how much PCOS cause infertility. Best wishes to you.


Posted by momto10

Tracy, I know what you mean about not connecting with my children..... Each onth I sem to get a little better. I seem to "enjoy" my maritail relations again as well. I really feel like my whole life is coming back into order. This month is only my second "normal" month, and I am 9 months post TR..... So, who knows, I feel like I still have time.

I have had 6 Biologocal living children, 4 m/c before TL, and 4 step children. ALL are Blessings, even if I never conceive another baby, "MY" TR was very much worth it!

Gwen


Posted by MOMZILLA

OK..so I have no intention of have a TR baby ( I am 43) but I got my pre-TL BFPs by ...child #1: did nothing and got PG within 3 months..child #2)..had 2 m/cs two months in a row and did some temping and clearplan monitor thing but still took 1 year to get pg.. child #3: not trying but had bc fail us resulting in a wonderful gift of a baby boy who turns 4 in March and tells me "Mommy I love you" every day..

Tracy


Posted by Iluvrsp

If your tubes are blocked when you have the surgery done does that mean that you cannot get pregnant? Also when you have the TR done do you just let nature take it's course or do you have to do something else? I am new to this and just trying to learn before then time comes to have the TR done..


Posted by Tanya from VA

iluvsrp - The point of the TR surgury is to put your tubes back together so you can conceive in a more "natural" or pre-ligation way. If your tubes become blocked then you can not conceive after TR (the old fashion way). You would need to seek IVF or another fertility treatment.

My comments about doing nothing were in no way to meant to say "relax, it will happen". In my case I did almost everything for a year, and we took a month off mostly because we were moving and I simply didn't have time to chart, temp, OPK, ect. It was one of only two months that I didn't do anything.

As far as the the God/religion talk, to each their own. I agree it's hard after months and months of ttc and frustration to hear it's as simple as turning it over to God. You want to know why your being forsaken. What is the plan he has for you? Why this loving giving God throws miscarriage or blocked tubes at you, when others conceieve and have a child with no problems? I felt that way many times, especially after my loss at 10 weeks with twins. It was completely devestating, and I'm not sure I've come back around yet. Just when I felt I was getting past most of it, my dad died unexpectly on April 26th - three weeks before Carly was born in May of this year.

Religious encouragement doesn't offend me, but it's not always easy for those who are struggling with this rollercoaster of ttc to embrace something that is suppose to be comforting when they truly are heartbroken and searching for answers. I'm sure it's actually as simple as that, not some deep seeded anti-religious sentiment.

Best of luck to all.

Tanya


Posted by Iluvrsp

So what blockage means is that after you have TR done your tubes can become blocked?


Posted by Tanya from VA

Absolutely they can become blocked. One or both can become blocked for several reasons. They can heal up and get blocked or they can get blocked with debris.

Chapel Hill has a statistic - not sure of the number - but it is a possibility you should be aware of.

Best of luck!

Tanya
TR 9-7-06
Carly 5-13-08


Posted by MOMZILLA

Tanya - That was one of my points..exactly..


Posted by mama12

Iluvrsp. It is a possiblity but the risk isn't that high.
There is a thing called an HSG where they force a dyed liquid through your tubes and do like an Xray so they can tell if your tubes are blocked.
Alot of times just getting the HSG done will clear out tubal blockages if it's just debris or tissue in there.
I wouldn't worry too much about it honestly.
The chances are pretty low, most women have at least one good open one if one is blocked.
All you need is one tube.
Getting the HSG is something you would do maybe 8 months to a year or more after TR if you haven't gotten pregnant. Most Dr.s will recommend waiting for a while see if you get pregnant. It took us a while for me to get pregnant after the EP I had, but I'm pregnant with a good one. Just passed my 1 year anniversary of TR.

Friday, January 18, 2008

Using Clomid After Tubal Reversal

Occassionally, Dr. Berger's patients ask about the use of Clomid and other follicle-stimulating medications after Tubal Reversal Surgery. These medications should always be used with caution in any woman trying to conceive. While not contraindicated after tubal reversal surgery, they should be used under a doctor's supervision and only if there is a documented need for ovulation induction. Because use of follicle-stimulationg medications require supervision by a women's local OBGYN doctor, Dr. Berger does not prescribe these medications for his tubal reversal patients.

This is topic On Clomid or Other Meds #2 in forum After Tubal Reversal at Tubal Reversal Message Board.


Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on December 28, 2007 09:13 AM:
Question:
Will someone please explain what the process is for injectibles?
Thanks.
Carla

Posted by atf6377 (Member # 11791) on December 28, 2007 09:38 AM:
Carla--
I am by no means an expert since this is my first cycle doing injectables but I will try to give you the run down.
The injects stimulate your ovaries to produce eggs---how many eggs you produce depends on how well you respond to the stims and how much you take. In my case, my RE wants me to produce no more than 3 eggs so that I am not faced with high order multiples.
You typically inject yourself every evening for 7-14 days depending on yhow well you respond to the stims. Then once your eggies are mature you receive an HCG trigger shot which will force your ovaries to release the mature eggs--thus making you ovulate.....which is around 36 hours after trigger.
I started all this on CD3 with labwork---E2 and FSH then my RE called me that evening with the amount of stims I was suppose to use that night.....150units. I am to take 150units each evening until Saturday when I go fro more bloodwork and a follicle scan. The labs and US will tell him how well I am responding to the stims and he will tweak my dose of stims accordingly. I will have more labs and another scan on Monday and go from there. Once my follicles become mature (hopefully I will have 2 or 3) He will give me a trigger shot and I will go home and BD like bunnies with DH---lmao!!!
HTH--
Andrea

Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on December 28, 2007 10:01 AM:
Dear Carla,
It can depend on the medication. With injectables there is close monitoring that it involved. Vaginal ultrasounds are begun early in the cycle along with blood work to monitor your response to the medications and to adjust as needed. They also use the monitoring to help with the timing of ovulation. I hope that this information helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions. I wish you much success.


Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on December 28, 2007 11:09 AM:
Thanks a bunch ladies!!!
:-) HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Posted by Sweetpea (Member # 2742) on December 28, 2007 12:55 PM:
Happy New Years Ladies!!
Veronica

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 04, 2008 11:23 AM:
Wow, I finally found the right one. Okay, so, here is the question: How long after ovulation do you use progesterone? I believe I will have suppositories, I have to go pick them up.

Posted by shannonk (Member # 11063) on January 04, 2008 01:12 PM:
has anyone heard of the drug femara, which is supposed to be like clomid but without the thickened mucus problem

Posted by robertozgirl (Member # 10215) on January 04, 2008 03:34 PM:
Hi, I remember reading this post from Dr. Berger in the past so I dug it up for you.
Jeni sends...
Femera is a medication that is approved for use for the treatment of breast cancer in post-menopausal women. Some doctors prescribe it as a fertility drug, although this is "off label" or a non-approved use of the medication since it induces ovulation in pre-menopausal women. leading I am not aware of any published studies on the possible long term affects of using Femara as a fertility drug. There have been some case reports of babies born with birth defects to women who have used Femera to induce ovulation. It is not clear at present whether Femera caused these defects or not.
The safer approach, in my opinion, is to use the lowest dose of Clomid (starting with 25 mg or one-half tablet) that induces ovulation as documented with an OPK, and then add a small amount of additional estrogen (such as Premarin 0.3 mg a day cycle days 10 through the day of the LH surge) to help stimulate cervical mucus production. Of course, if ovulation is occurring spontaneously, then no ovulation inducing medication should be used at all.

Posted by VIV007 (Member # 11493) on January 04, 2008 08:07 PM:
CarlaJo:
You will start progesterone supp. two days after ovulation has been com firmed and will continue until you test for a BFP or the ugly AF shows up.
What CD day are you on. I am on CD9, second month of Clomid and awaiting Ovulation.
Besting a great month and plenty of baby dust your way.
Viv

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 08, 2008 01:41 PM:
This is my first month on Clomid CD3-CD7. I only felt lightheaded. No other side effects so far.
I would like to know if I can take Mucinex to increase CM after taking Clomid?
Thanks Amanda for starting this thread last month which got great responses.Please ladies share your updates.
Vicky(38) TR5/03/07 CD7
Clomid CD3-CD7 (1st round)

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 08, 2008 01:54 PM:
Here is my update. I feel TERRIBLE. This is like the worst PMS ever. I am MEAN and I am never mean! Sheesh. I am on the 3rd day of the first cycle. My dr wants me to continue every month until I am done trying....
Carla
43 Clomid 5-9, CD7

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 08, 2008 01:55 PM:
Oh yeah! Thanks Viv. I am CD7 right now.

Posted by AutumnalPyre (Member # 8496) on January 08, 2008 02:06 PM:
I have a Clomid question...
This is my first month taking Clomid 50mg CD 2-6. My cycles are usually between 24-27 days with O always CD 13 or 14. This month, all the signs I am getting point to O being between CD 8 and 10?! Is this possible? TIA
Shannon

Posted by VIV007 (Member # 11493) on January 08, 2008 03:44 PM:
Hello Ladies
Passing by to say hello and to check up on how everyone is doing with clomid.
I wanted you guys to know how I was coming along on my second cycle of Clomid.
I was originally scheduled for an U/S tomorrow Wednesday but since Sunday I was feeling ovulation cramps so I call the RE and he had my come in Monday afternoon instead.
Thank God I had two big follicles 22/21.5 on my right side. YAY YAY ladies that is the side Dr. Berger was able to repair. That same day the doctor had me trigger shot and today we went in for the #1 IUI and I have to go tomorrow for #2 IUI because I should be ovulating by tonight or tomorrow.
Ladies I ask for plenty of prayers and baby dust. HEHEHE I begin the frustrating 2WW on Thursday.
Wishing everyone is doing well and I sending
-
Viv

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 08, 2008 03:48 PM:
MUCH MUCH BABY DUST VIV!!!!

Posted by babydean (Member # 10601) on January 08, 2008 04:46 PM:
could i join in your thread i have been on clomid 200mg. still no o now on to a infertility dr. i guess he will put me on injectables.. could you please give me a rough estament of the cost because i will be self pay

Posted by mommye (Member # 10658) on January 08, 2008 04:54 PM:
Hi Girls! Sorry I've been MIA. I have been really busy. Just wanted to say hello to you girls. I'm now on CD 32 and tested with BFN, but the tests that I have I recieved from earlypregnancy tests dot com, and also used in OPKing. My OPK only showed 1 day in the positive;however, my progesterone was 26 on CD 20. I believe that cold might have something to do with the tests, and with all the money I have spent on tests, I am not going to the store to buy any more as of yet. My doc's office told me that if I did not have AF by tomorrow to come in for a blood draw. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Talk to you later.
Nicole

Posted by mommye (Member # 10658) on January 08, 2008 04:55 PM:

I'm so excited for you I hope this is it!!!!!

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 08, 2008 07:24 PM:
Nicole that sounds REALLY promising! I hope this is it for you!

Posted by mommye (Member # 10658) on January 08, 2008 08:50 PM:
Thanks CarlaJo, and I'm not sure about the progesterone. Anyone else know?

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 09, 2008 09:09 AM:
Any news Nicole???? Let us know when you know!

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 09, 2008 11:41 AM:
Ladies, I'm not not part of this thread per sae but I figured this would be a great place to ask my question... I took my last clomid pill on Monday night. Tuesday already I was getting alot of lotiony/ewcm (tmi). I did an opt last night and while there was a line, it wasn't the same as the control line. Has anyone ever O'd that early on clomid?.. I mean my last pill was only 2 days ago but all signs are starting to show. Last cycle I got a +OPT about 5 days later than what I was expecting so now I'm really confused. TIA for letting me butt in.. I hope you ladies can give me some advice and info...
Sherri G

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 09, 2008 11:48 AM:
Oh, I also wanted to add that while I do know that if you do test early for ovulation, that you can get a false positive so that's why I figured I better come to the experts. I really don't want to miss this chance.

Posted by brlracer (Member # 11897) on January 09, 2008 11:48 AM:
I am new to the boards, 3 years past TR. DH and I started taking fertil+male and fertil+female made by Total Health Enhancements it was orinally a horse supplement. Their success rate is 70% for ages 35-46. Anyone using supplements? My dr discussed possible drugs but I have been ovulating normally, but my age is getting up there!

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 09, 2008 12:49 PM:
Hi Sherri,
All I know is this: when I am not sure of stuff, I BD anyway. That way I don't miss the chance. Are you temping? I know that unless there is a male factor involved (low sperm count), you can BD everyday.
Maybe someone else will chime in.
Much Baby Dust To You!!
Carla

Posted by VIV007 (Member # 11493) on January 09, 2008 02:48 PM:
Sherri
This was my second cycle of clomid and thank god I O'ed around the same time as usual. The only bad side effects were the night sweats and headaches.
I hope you have a success cycle with clomid.
Viv


Good advice Carla.. now only if I could get DH on board to BD every day.. that's a chore each month as so as it is. He tells me he's too old to go like that every night He's only 43. I sure hate to see what he's like in 7 more years when he hits the big 50!!!
Sherri

Posted by AutumnalPyre (Member # 8496) on January 09, 2008 04:53 PM:
Sherri,
I have the same problem with my DH and he's only 34! You'd think BDing was painful or something! I told him if we stick to this month's "schedule", that I'll buy him some hockey tickets. LOL Let's see if that lights a fire under him!
Shannon

Posted by Patiently waiting (Member # 11777) on January 09, 2008 05:43 PM:
Im sorry to bump in on this post but I just wanted to say that if my DH acts as though he might die because he has to be on a schedule for TTC, I think I might have to smack him.. Especially since right now, before TR, he is constantly wanting it all the time......He should be so happy when my PTLS is over with and I actually want to have sex. Right now I have no interest( due to problems probably that have to do w/ PTLS) but TTC I will have loads of interest.....Watch, he'll pull the ol'.."I have a headache thing" LOL. Sorry, Im just rambling...

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 09, 2008 07:47 PM:
LOL! Well, no BD, no BABY!!! I took the clomid last night instead of in the morning and that seemed to have helped my mood. My lower tummy feels "fullish", if that makes any sense. I will take my last dose tonight.
TTYL!


Aunt Flo reared her ugly face today Oh well on to round 2 of Clomid.

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 09, 2008 08:46 PM:
Sorry to hear that Nicole.


Yeah, me too. Sorry Nicole.
-Kate

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 10, 2008 09:22 AM:
Shannon, It's funny but yet it's not.. DH thinks he "knows" when we should BD. When I say "time to BD" he asks when I got a +opt and then proceeds to calculate exactly what days would be best. Me on the other hand, I take my temps (not faithfully though), use OPK's, KNOW my body and the signs it gives me and then say "ok we're BDing the next 5 days like it or not." Poor guy, by the end of that 5 days he's completely worn out!! SO that's why he trys to pinpoint O on his own, so he won't be "tired & worn out."
I laughed when you said that about hockey tickets because I actually work part-time for an entertainment company and I work alot of AHL hockey games (GO BEARS!!!)
Unfortunately, my hubby isn't a sports fan (he's into anything automobile related) so I couldn't entice him with hockey tickets, which would be easy for me.
Good luck to you and Everyone else. Here's hoping we all release nice mature eggies and lots of them!!
Sherri

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 11, 2008 07:13 AM:
Sherri, did you ever get an answer to your question? Did you O? I feel like I am going to also and I took my last clomid pill Wed night.

Posted by AutumnalPyre (Member # 8496) on January 11, 2008 08:24 AM:
Sherri,
Mine does the same things! Isn't it funny? He adds it all up in his head and does the little air doodling thing with his finger and everything! Good luck with that this month! I think we both need it!
This is our first cycle of Clomid, and I feel like I'm about to O a grapefruit or two. Anyone else have this? How much later should I expect to O? TIA
Shannon

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 11, 2008 09:22 AM:
Good Morning ladies.
I finished my first round of clomid Tues. I have been feeling what I believe to be very light O pains and CM is wet. I am on CD10. I do take temps and use OPK. So far temps are crazy maybe it the hotflashes during the night and OPK is(-)
Dr told us to BD CD11, CD13, CD15. Hopefully I will O as normal.
Sorry AF showed up Nicole.
Carla is enjoy reading your posts.
Regarding DH and BD: I took him to the RE with me and he got a better understand since he was able to ask all of his questions and voice concerns.

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 11, 2008 09:42 AM:
Why, thank you Vicky! I think you just made my whole day! :-)
I am also CD10. First cycle of Clomid. My OPK was positive this morning, but I am thinking that Sherri said that you can get false positives while using Clomid. My temps took a dip which is what I usually do right before I O. I feel like I may be, cm is wet also. Hmmm...everything I read says you O 5-9 days after your last pill???
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d61bc
Here is my FF chart
Carla

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 11, 2008 10:09 AM:
Brain Freeze - can not remember how to post chart. My temp dip yesterday (2nd day after) and sky rocketed up this morning. I do not believe I am O yet. I am praying for this weekend.
? Carla what are your reasons for using Clomid?

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 11, 2008 10:28 AM:
Go to sharing and then home page set up. Then you can copy and paste the url. HTH.
We have been trying for over a year now. We had an ectopic in December of 2006 and nothing since. I think I stopped ovulating after the methotrexate shot for a few months. So, the reason we are doing it is three fold, I am 43 time is ticking, possibly not ovulating (according to my dr, but I think I am), and it is the last thing we will try. We are going to quit trying in June of this year.
Why did you decide to try it Vicky?

Posted by wanting (Member # 2899) on January 11, 2008 11:17 AM:
hi ladies i am not new on the board i had tr in 8/03 since then had 2 ectopics and 3 mc we just finally found a re that will help us and now i am scared to death he said my dhs swimmers were fine and my hormones were good but he perscribed me clomid 100mg starting cd 3 i have read so much crazy stuff and am scared to take it i could really use some support.do you ladies mind if i join you.any advice is welcomed

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 11, 2008 11:21 AM:
Sure you can join us! The more the merrier! I was scared too. I didn't want to do any of that stuff. It affected me more when I took it in the morning. I would advise you to take it at night, that way you sleep through some of the side effects, if you even have any. Some women don't have any at all.
GL and much baby dust!

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 11, 2008 12:23 PM:
Welcome wanting. This was my 1st round on 50mg Clomid CD3-CD7. I took it after lunch each day. The first day I felt weird and very light headed. The other days no side affect. Like most women I was scared also.
I am 38 - TR 5/07. DH and I informed DR we wanted to take an aggressive approach. Found out with the follicle test that my eggs were not maturing enough so he put me on clomid. Prior months he thought nothing was wrong bcuz of my charts. hmmm could have been the December stress. Hopefully this month eggs will mature and BD timing is right.
Carla, I asked because looking at your chart your LP seemed short at times. It seems as though a lot of women their BFP when after they stopped trying or reached their cutoff time. We are in prayer.
Much Baby Dust to everyone

Posted by PookieStarnes (Member # 11020) on January 11, 2008 01:03 PM:
HI all - noticed that 'pray4me' posted that she starts Clomid on CD3-CD7....I am supposed to start this month too but I am to start CD1-CD5....WEIRD...I wonder if that is because I am a 28 day cycle????
Any one wanna chime in .... Just me thinking out loud...Melissia (TR 12/21/2007 - 21 days post OP)

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 11, 2008 01:31 PM:
I took an OPT last night and got a line but it's not anywhere close to the control line. I've been having alot of pressure and pains in my pelvic and back, kinda feels like my belly is stuffed with something and is trying to squeeze out!!!
I'm not getting an U/S and I'm kinda worried because the last time I took the 50mg dose CD3-7 I developed OHSS and produced 6 cysts. The RE could tell I O'd but couldn't tell how many eggs I released. I'm taking a chance this month and hope I don't live to regret it. That month, DH and I didn't BD because we had an arguement but I told him that regardless of what happens he's BDing even if I have to rough him up
Carla and Shannon, keep me posted. I'd love it if we'd all get PG this cycle and all go on to deliver babies (and all around the same time). How awesome would that be!!!!
Sherri

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 11, 2008 01:40 PM:
Hey Carla, I think it was a false alarm on ovulating early. I'm hoping because DH and I haven't been BDing. I told him this weekend we'll "start." When we finish is yet to be determined. LOL!! DH was worried that I am using clomid. He said that because he knows women are born with a set amount of eggs and if I'm wasting up to 6 eggs a cycle using clomid, he's worried that my supply will run out and I'll go thru menopause early (I'm 36 yrs old). I told him I didn't think I'd worry about that at this point but he does bring up a very interesting question. I wonder if anyone has ever discussed that with their RE.. If they have I hope we hear those answers, I'd be shock to find out I "ran out" of eggs!!!
Oh BTW, I'm definitely using Preseed this time. I'm not taking any chances on the CM thing. Anyone else using it??
Sherri

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 11, 2008 01:49 PM:
Hi Sherri.
I hope it was a false alarm then! I understand the full feeling. I have that too.
It seems like we have less ladies posting on here compared to the 1st thread that Amanda started.
I have the preseed, I just haven't been using it, b/c I didn't think I would be O'ing this early. Maybe I am not, maybe it was b/c of the clomid in my system still.
I hope I don't till after Sunday. We are going to my mother in law and father in laws in Columbus this weekend... Can't be BDing there! It is just a little condo..


According to my ovulation calendar I should be gearing up to O this week!!!! I sure hope this clomid works.. The way I've been feeling lately, I must have a number of eggies ready to leave the nest!!
Sherri

Posted by Sweetpea (Member # 2742) on January 14, 2008 11:29 AM:
Hi Ladies~
Well first round on injections didn't work....so I'm waiting for AF to get here and start all over again. I will be starting at a higher dose.
I'm anxiously waiting......
Hope everyone has a great Monday!!
~Veronica
Good Luck Sherri!

Posted by babydean (Member # 10601) on January 14, 2008 12:01 PM:
good morning ladies, i am on cd37, waiting to go to a re thureday,he's 3 hrs away but if it get's me preg worth it. probally will leave out wend. had my tr in feb.15,2007 so almost a year,been reading about you that's on clomid well it didn't work for me this time in past preg. it did i got up 200mg. so on to the next step.hope all has a great day

Posted by atf6377 (Member # 11791) on January 14, 2008 12:18 PM:
Hey Ladies--
How is everyone doing in their cycles??
Sherri--I hope the Clomid does the trick for you. Is your doc not monitoring you with US around O time??? It seems like you REALLY need one since you developed OHSS before.
Veronica--Sorry your injectable cycle didn't work. I hope you get your BFP with the higher dose. I too am going to get a higher dose next cycle if this one doesn't work.
As for me---9DPO and I tested my trigger out-so now I will probably tet for real in the morning which is still ery early for me at 10DPO. I typically don't get a BFP until atleast 13DPO but they have all been m/c's. I am hoping that if I can get an early BFP, then it may be my keeper baby.
Babydust--
Andrea

Posted by robertozgirl (Member # 10215) on January 14, 2008 12:38 PM:
Hello All,
I am on cd 5 and I go in tomorrrow morning for lap surgery. After which I will wait for the next af to begin injectables again. It will be my second round of follistim.
Jeni

Posted by Sweetpea (Member # 2742) on January 14, 2008 03:07 PM:
Jeni~
Good Luck tomorrow with surgery.....I will be waiting to hear the results so post when you can.
Prayers and thoughts are being sent your way!
God Bless :-)
Veronica

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 14, 2008 10:09 PM:
Andrea, no my Dr doesn't even know I took the clomid this cycle. She very adament about me doing IVF that I just gave up on going to her and decided to do things on my own. I think I'll be ok this cycle because I don't feel sickly like I did in June when I developed OHSS. I was sick for over 2 weeks and my pelvic area felt like a huge balloon was blown up inside of me. Not the case this time.. even though I do feel some action going on down there. I'm just frustrated because I've been OPKing for 4 days now and NO positives yet. My ovulation calendar says this weekend but I honestly don't trust that. I read on the internet that you should consider the first day you take clomid as your CD1 and then test on CD12-15. Does anyone agree with that???
Thanks
Sherri

Posted by christinal (Member # 10504) on January 15, 2008 05:56 AM:
Can I join you guys? I start 100 mgs of clomid tonight. This is my last ditch effort. I went to a re 21/2 hours away to try to get injectables. He said i had to have at least 4 or 5 antral follicles per ovary to get them. Well I had 2. I don't realy think the clomid will do anything for me ( I'm 44) but said I would try for a year. Last time on 50, I didn't O and had a hard time with the OPK's. I started testing too soon maybe? Cd 10...When should I sytart testing? I hate wasting them. I also got false positives, cause I got a + on cd 10 and then again on cd 20. WTH? Can someone tell me when to start testing as to not waste them but to get a true picture of the + I appreciate it.
Tina
Cd 5

Posted by christinal (Member # 10504) on January 15, 2008 06:16 AM:
I forgot to ask....can I take Maca root with the clomid? I'm thinking NO, but wanted some input.
TIA
Tina

Posted by babydean (Member # 10601) on January 15, 2008 11:15 AM:
just wanting to write and say hi everyone could someone tell me when i go to the re thuresday will he want to just talk or will he probally put me on something i have never been to a re

Posted by atf6377 (Member # 11791) on January 15, 2008 12:29 PM:
babydean--
I hope others will chime in to answer your question about the RE. I began seeing an RE because of recurrent miscarriage and he started with a battery of tests for me.
I would think any reputable RE would start by doing CD 3 bloodwork like FSH---to show your egg reserve. Another good test to have is CD21 Progesterone to see if you are ovulating. Other than that, I am not sure.
Be sure to write down a list of questions to ask him/her while there. Believe me--once you get in there and he/she starts talking medical mumbo jumbo, you will get all confused and forget what you wanted to say.
Good luck----
HTH-
Andrea

Posted by Barbara, RN (Member # 8698) on January 15, 2008 02:12 PM:
Sherri G,
I am concerned that you say you are taking Clomid without medical supervision. Clomid is a prescription drug that should be taken under a doctor's close supervision. If you are not comfortable with your current doctor, please find a different doctor to work with. There are risks involved with taking Clomid and it seems counterproductive to subject yourself to unneccessary risk. In addition, dosing yourself without appropriate follow-up with blood tests and ultrasound could mean you are not getting a therapeutic dose. There is a reason these drugs are prescription and require a doctor's care.

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 15, 2008 04:17 PM:
Of course you can join us Tina! I sure hope that the clomid does the job for you. So far I am on cd 14 and 50 mg clomid. I have not ovulated yet.
Sherri G. I, like you, am not really being monitored. She just told me that if I have any heavy pain to call her. I would be worried if I were you! You already had the OHSS. It doesn't seem good that you are not getting U/S or something.
No, I had not heard that about considering the first day of clomid cd 1. I just heard that you should ovulate 5-9 days after you are done with your last pill. Today is day five for me. Hopefully soon!!
TTYL,
Carla

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 15, 2008 05:38 PM:
Welcome aboard Tina. This was my 1st round of 50mg Clomid (CD 3-7). I temp every morning and started using OPK on CD8 (between 5-7pm). I finally got a + on CD13. The same morning my temp dropped (yes, am baby dance). I am on CD14 and my temp increased dramatically. Hopefully I O'd yesterday.
If correct I O'd 6 days after last Clomid pill.
Sherri G take xtra care. God Speed.
Baby Dean- I do not see an RE. My dr specialize in fertility so I stayed with him. I have only done HSG and follicle exam. Started Clomid because my eggs did not mature enough in size.
Just make sure you find someone you are comfortable with.
Much love, peace, and baby dust to everyone.

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 15, 2008 07:33 PM:
Vicky, you are my cycle buddy. I am cd14 too. No positive on the OPK though. My temp dropped this am, hopefully will go up in the am.
Have a great night!
Carla

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 16, 2008 08:50 AM:
Question ladies:
Warning, maybe tmi...
Last night when dh and I bd (can't miss the eggie!) I felt all kinds of almost pain and pressure. Like he was hitting my uterus almost. I have never felt that before. Could it be the clomid??? This is worrying me a little bit.
My temps are still low. So, cd 15 and no ovulation yet.

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 16, 2008 09:31 AM:
Weird - CD13 Morning BD I had no problem but the second time (Night)I felt alot of pressure and was not as moist. This is a new experience for me also. We BD every other day so we will see tonight.
As I stated yesterday, CD13 temp dip 96.98, CD14 skyrocket up 97.92, and now CD15 dropped 97.52. So I do not know if I actually O'd still waiting to confirm. Also CM has changed back to Creamy.
The hardest thing for me is there is no guideline, model, or consistancy. It would be easier if the sign were more concrete.
Carla keep testing I know you started Clomid a couple of days after me.
Have an exceptional day ladies.

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 16, 2008 11:34 AM:
CD 15 and still NO +OPK.. what the heck is going on here!! I've been feeling pains like I should be Oing for the past few days but still the sticks show a light line. I even went out and bought another brand and tested twice lastnight thinking MAYBE I'd get a different result. Guess I'll just have to BD every other day to be sure!!!
Carla, it looks like you and I are going to be in a pickle if we both O this weekend, you're at your in-laws and my DH is at a mens retreat for church. The only good thing is, it's close by so he was already instructed that if need be, he will be finding a way to come home to BD!! Just imagine him telling the others that he had to go home to "service" his wife. (that's his term for BDing during O time)
I also wanted to add that I too have felt the same feelings you have before. I wonder if it's a low cervix causing the feeling?
Thanks ladies for being concerned, I appreciate it. I didn't think it was totally necessary to have an U/S if you were using clomid. (I had posted a question on here before and got that conscensus). If I thought my health was in danger, I definitely would call my RE and tell her I took it this cycle. She'd be ok with it because she told me before that if I changed my mind it was not a problem.
sherri

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 17, 2008 09:20 AM:
Vicky and Sherri,
I am glad I am not alone in this, although it is not pleasant at all!
Well, CD 16 and no positive opk... Maybe the clomid didn't do anything for me.
"go home to service his wife" That is so funny!
Are your temps still up Vicky? Mine are still low. 96.85.
Carla

Posted by Sherri G (Member # 4906) on January 17, 2008 10:07 AM:
Still no +OPT.. What!!!??? I'm telling you this clomid had to have done something, I have been feeling alot of O like pains the past 2 days. I don't mind BDing every other day but I need to be on progesterone so its very hard to determine when to start if I don't know when I ovulated. WHY does this seem so hard now. I knew exactly when to test for O and exactly when to BD now after my 3 M/C's in a row, my cycle is SO screwed up I don't know whether I'm coming or going... Maybe I will O late because of the darn clomid... Who knows anymore!!
Carla, keep me updated.
Sherri

Posted by AutumnalPyre (Member # 8496) on January 17, 2008 11:48 AM:
Ladies, please help me out here!
I am 4DPO on my first cycle of Clomid (50mg CD 2-6). Since yesterday, I have been extremely fatigued, crampy, gassy, and (sorry if TMI) had a noticeable increase in CM (sorry, but I feel like I am leaving a snail trail!). Has anyone else had this with Clomid? HELP!
TIA,
Shannon

Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on January 17, 2008 01:14 PM:
Sorry Shannon, I am not there yet, but it sure doesn't sound like fun!!! Hopefully, it will ALL be worth it!
Sherri and Vicky!! CD 16, Positive OPT today!!! Woo hoo, bd tonight! LOL!
Have a great day!
Carla

Posted by pray4me (Member # 2763) on January 17, 2008 09:47 PM:
Happy BABY DANCE to you Carla.
Shannon I just put in my temp and stated I am 3DPO. So far I am not experiencing any of those symptons.
Sherri I experienced several days of O pain before getting ++.
I thought since my temp went up on up, down, and back up that maybe I O'd on yesterday instead of CD13. FF stated that I O'd on CD13. I BD on both days. Wish me luck. CM agrees with CD13. Tell me what you think.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1197e3
Vicky
CD16 3DPO

Posted by mommye (Member # 10658) on January 17, 2008 09:56 PM:
Sherry-

Nicole

Posted by BLTEN123 (Member # 10920) on January 18, 2008 07:45 AM:
Morning ladies,
I am on my 2nd round of Clomid. My first round of Clomid and IUI were unsuccessful, but we're trying again. I noticed with my first round that when I "o'd" I had more pain than normal and when my cycle came, the first day was really, really crampy. I didn't get a peak on my CBFM, but I did get one of the sticks that I sometimes use as a backup. I understand that Clomid can throw the CBFM off sometimes. I am on day 3 of clomid and go back Friday for my mid cycle U/S to make sure the follicles responded to the meds. Last time I had my prog test at DPO7 and it came back at 43.2 which the RE said was incredible. But it wasn't incredible enough for me to get pregnant - go figure.
So we're off and running with this cycle and we'll keep our fingers crossed!.
Take care,
Betty
TR 05/17/07
CD5


I FINALLY got my +OPK!! Yippee!!! So guess what I'll be doing this weekend!!
Nicole, thanks for the concern. I did develop OHSS in June. I was on 50mg of clomid CD3-7. I had 6 cysts on my ovaries. Two were very large. I was sick for close to 2 weeks and had to be monitored via U/S and internal for a month to make sure the cysts went away on their own (which they did) I know I am taking a huge risk doing this on my own. I haven't been sick like I was in June, I've just been having alot of O type pains the past few days. The RE I was seeing (who every other woman raves about) doesn't think post TR conception will work for me since my tube lengths are 4. and 2. She referred me to do IVF and basically said she sees no reason to treat me. I went to another one and he said the same darn thing. I'm running out of Dr's in the area!!!
Sherri

Saturday, January 12, 2008

Pregnancy After Tubal Reversal Surgery With Dr. Berger

A patient on the Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center message board posts the results of her HCG levels and ultrasound exam. Members of the message board as well as staff members from Dr. Berger's office encourage her to follow the early pregnancy protocol that Dr. Berger recommends his patients follow once they have a positive pregnancy test. Not only does Dr. Berger give out very detailed information regarding tubal reversal surgery, he also educates his patients about early pregnancy monitoring once they get a positive pregnancy test so that they can determine at the earliest point where the pregnancy is located. Dr. Berger's care and devotion to his patients is just one reason that women from all over the US and other countries choose to have him perform their tubal reversal procedure.

From the forum After Tubal Reversal at Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by khadija (Member # 7447) on January 10, 2008 02:48 PM: Ok this is not for me but for a close friend. She was PG but lost the baby after 8 weeks. A month later she was PG again. When her #s were around 9,000 US was done. Nothing showed up in the tube or in the U. She has not felt any pain. 1st US with the #s 9000 was done 12-28-07 about 2 weeks ago. She saw no blood or anything, went to DR 2 days ago and #s are now over 33,000. still no pain. No US was done. Is it possible that it could be in the tube or since no pain can it be in the U. Thanks and I hope you all are doing very well.

Posted by berta8133 (Member # 11188) on January 10, 2008 03:17 PM: Everything would be a guess and not quite the way to go...i would say they need to do another u/s. Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on January 10, 2008 03:22 PM: It is highly recommed that immediate follow up with the physician be done today ASAP. Generally a pregnancy can be seen on ultrasound with HCG levels of 1500-2000. Please let us know how things go today. RhondaB@tubal-reversal.net

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on January 10, 2008 03:24 PM: What kind of US did they do? I would think if the could not see anything with the normal US they would have done a vaginal US. To make sure everything is fine.

Posted by Sarah Meacham, RN (Member # 9766) on January 10, 2008 04:02 PM: Please go see your doctor immediately - you need follow-up to find out where your pregnancy is located as soon as possible.
Sarah


Posted by khadija (Member # 7447) on January 11, 2008 12:50 PM: OK first thank all of you. From what I read on the papers from the DR, it said that the PG would end on its own. just give it time. For over 2 weeks now she has been very sad waiting on it to happen. I told her to go see my DR yesterday. They saw her right away. Did US and saw the baby and the heatbeat. Told her she was 8 weeks and some odd days PG. She could not believe it. She is so happy now but still in shock. I have never heard of this. She also has been taking MEDS from the DR for 2 weeks now and is worried they could have messed something up. She is going back in for more check-ups to insure her everything is OK. Thank you all so much. As for me I am now little over 20 weeks PG with TR# 3. All is well. I do not feel tired or even feel PG. I have still not felt the baby move but it is moving just fine on US. DR said not to worry it may take a little longer. I wish you all the very best and sending baby dust to all.

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on January 11, 2008 01:09 PM: I am gald your friend went to your doctor. I am happy to hear you and that baby are doing well also. I bet your friend could have fell in the floor after the doctor fought the baby. Tell her prayers are coming her way. Have a great day.
Miranda

Posted by Sarah Meacham, RN (Member # 9766) on January 11, 2008 03:56 PM: I'm glad everything turned out to be okay!
Sarah

Friday, December 28, 2007

Pregnant At Age 44 Following Tubal Reversal Surgery With Dr. Berger

A member of the Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center Message Board posts "I was a member here several years ago. I had my reversal done by Dr. Berger 3 years ago. I had all but given up hope but now I'm currently 14 weeks pregnant at the age of 44!" Many times women age 40 or over who have had tubal ligation are encouraged to undergo IVF with donor egg due to their age. Tubal Reversal surgery with Dr. Berger gives women of any age the chance to conceive a child naturally. In a study performed by Dr. Berger, pregnancy rates after tubal reversal were higher than after IVF within every age group. Similarly, birth rates were higher after tubal reversal at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center than after IVF for women of all ages and the differences increased with increasing maternal age.

This is topic hi again in forum New Message Board Members at Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by debbiem (Member # 11820) on December 18, 2007 10:15 AM:
I was a member here several years ago. I had my reversal done by Dr. Berger 3 years ago. I had all but given up hope but now I'm currently 14 weeks pregnant at the age of 44!
I'm going to post a more specific message on the age & tubal reversal forum, but just wanted to introduce myself again and say to not give up hope if it isn't happening as soon as you would like!

Posted by So_Blessed (Member # 11773) on December 18, 2007 10:54 AM:
debbiem,I have a new motto that fits your situation perfectly. "A delay from GOD is not a denial" we have to stay faithful. I was a little concerned about not conceiving after TR but I see all things are possible. Stay Prayerful.
So_Blessed

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on December 18, 2007 03:37 PM:
So true so-blessed.It is great to hear that after all this time you are getting that little one debbiem. Never give up hope for hope is fought in God and he can do anything.I am so happy for you.

Posted by Stephanie RN (Member # 460) on December 19, 2007 12:57 PM:
Wonderful news! Thanks for sharing this information and please keep us posted on your pregnancy.

Posted by Sarah Dziadosz (Member # 11326) on December 19, 2007 01:06 PM:
Congratulations, that is fabulous news! Sarah

Posted by lesliebrown569 (Member # 7110) on December 19, 2007 02:01 PM:
congrats debbiem!! what year were you on here? I have been up here since 04
LeslieEDD~ 8/4/08TR~4/20/07

Posted by cnrstepp (Member # 11810) on December 26, 2007 02:46 PM:
Wonderful!!!Cora

Posted by aussiewife33 (Member # 10263) on December 27, 2007 08:07 PM:
i am so excited for you thats wounderful news.....how exciting. i wihs you the best..... i agree with you that if you stay faithful like abrahams wife you will be blessed . sometimes we just get tested on our patience.